No gf, no friends, it's hard to meet new people. Tinder and other apps don't work. Idk even if I travel somewhere I'm alone

  • TurboHarbinger@feddit.cl
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    2 days ago

    ITT: Bunch of assholes telling you "have you tried to NOT having a cold" when your nose is clearly leaking.

    If you don't understand how it feels to be lonely, any advice you give is awful and full of entitlement.

    • gamedeviancy@discuss.tchncs.de
      hexagon
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      2 days ago

      It's true that I know most most of advices from this thread. I'm also know that I should to use them, and I try but it's hard IRL. Sometimes I just break up like today and every answer to me is like getting in contact with some human. Satisfy some social need idk

      • TurboHarbinger@feddit.cl
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        2 days ago

        I understand, sometimes you just need to scream and rant. It is a good thing.

        When I get anxiety this hard, I usually take a very long walk until I get exhausted, so I could think for myself instead of hearing my subconscious how awful things are.

        After taking a break, you'll notice that this voice is always emotional, with 0 logic, full of exaggerated negativity, and will try to convince you that "this is how you die today", which is pretty much bullshit and incredibly unrealistic. For me at least, that voice will always try focus on the worst in people. When I feel alone is pretty much this.

        Sometimes I get a crazy though like telling me "you're done, dead, there is no going back" for something so trivial as remembering I have to take the dog out tomorrow (not now or yesterday, tomorrow). There is no win unless you ignore it and push through. And even if you commit, it's still fucking hard.

    • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 days ago

      In the ADHD community, a lot of sound advice for building good habits and coping mechanisms overlaps a lot with "just don't have ADHD" advice because the advice still works, even if it's significantly harder to pull off with ADHD.

      There's less overlap for depression, but there still is some between sound advice and "just don't be sad lol".

      I'm sure there's some overlap in this case for lonliness.

      One of the tough things about this stuff is that it is very easy to convince yourself that nobody understands what you're going through, so when you don't see immediate results from advice that means they're just wrong and there's nothing you can do. The most important piece of advice is to never give up.


      All that said, if everyone in this thread is giving bad advice that shows they don't understand, you're implying that you do understand. So where's your advice?

      Or did you just comment to discourage people from trying to help and leave OP to suffer?

      • TurboHarbinger@feddit.cl
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        2 days ago

        Or did you just comment to discourage people from trying to help and leave OP to suffer?

        Sure dude, both discouraging people from "helping" (lol) and leaving OP to suffer are obviously the same thing. /s

        First of all: OP didn't ask for advice. Second: I'm discouraging people from giving bad advice.

        I can relate to OPs suffering. I know is though, and I undestand on my own experience how OP feels. I know that the only solution for it's like another commenter said: "get used to it". OP probably knows this too.

        With some projection from me, I can assume he's only trying to rant over this, thats why OP asked said it on this sub. That's why he hasn't answered other comments beside hobbies. OP is trying to relate to people this way.

        So when people show up full of self-indulgence thinking "OP NEEDS MY ADVICE", then it’s clear those comments are more for themselves than for OP. So congrats, you’ve given yourselves a pat on the back. If that’s your attitude, you can fuck off.

  • lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com
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    2 days ago

    I don't have the solution for you.

    I experienced what you are talking about. I kind of solved it via dating.

    You wrote that you are studying. Do you also have a job? That could be an opportunity to get to know people.

  • Mesophar@lemm.ee
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    2 days ago

    Find a hobby you enjoy, even if it isn't a social hobby. Get involved in that. Get involved in the community around it, whether that's local or online. Start talking to people, find other common interests. Branch off into those interests with small groups from your hobby, or new groups entirely.

    I don't know you, so this isn't a judgement of you or your situation, but people don't like one-dimensional people. Find a variety of things you enjoy doing just for yourself that isn't just video games or YouTube or tv, and then find spaces where people talk about those things. Start going to a gym or taking fitness classes, or join a hobby painting group, or a TCG/board game group, or a book club, or a jogging/biking group, or a crochet circle. Volunteer at local food banks or animal shelters.

    Meeting a variety of people and having different, interesting things to talk to them about will help you make friends. Making friends will help you meet potential partners and practice communication skills to make the relationship work. It isn't always easy or fast, but everything I've found a partner it was after I told myself "you know what, I'm don't waiting for friends and companionship to fall in my lap. I'm going to go out and make it happen, or at least have fun on my own if I can't find others to have fun with".

    • gamedeviancy@discuss.tchncs.de
      hexagon
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      2 days ago

      Yeah I have only a very generic hobbies like games, books, rock and travelling when I have money to do it. But it's usually a cheap journey by bus with sleeping in cheap hostel etc. Without any luxuries as insert girls on tinder and expect such trips from men. I'm study finance part-time and work also, I have limited time for new hobbies. Also I still have to spend some time every day for learning English cause you see as it is :)

      • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        2 days ago

        I'm going to add some additional advice as far as the "incel mindset": Get off tinder.

        Tinder isn't meant for making lasting relationships, no matter what the marketing team claims. From it's inception it has been used almost exclusively for people to hook up. Casual sex. There are couples that got started through Tinder, but those are rarer.

        Sites and services like Tinder turn dating into a "meat market". Really sit and think for a moment about just how little you learn of a person from their Tinder profile. It's almost all superficial and appearance based.

        Why would someone spend even a few seconds on "Average McBigNose" when they can swipe a few times and be looking at "Chad McThunderCock", spending time on "Julia BigForehead" when they're potentially moments away from "Anorexia FCups". It boils down aspects of everyone involved to an almost entirely appearance based first impression. That's not fair or healthy for self esteem.

        If you feel you need to use dating sites, try using some that have more fuller profiles, big long personality quizes, and that don't have an entire design philosophy and UI built around knee-jerk reactions of yes or no.


        Additionally, a lot of things depend on how you portray or frame it. Try to give as much as possible a positive spin, even internally. Fake it if you need to.

        You don't just travel cheaply.

        You enjoy travelling, but you try to do it frugally (frugal is effectively the socially acceptable version of cheap) so you can save money for other things. Avoiding expensive travel arrangements keeps you closer to the ground and allows you to more naturally and honestly experience the places you go, really immerse yourself in the places.

        Traveling by bus takes longer, but it gives you more time to think deeply about the people and places around you, time to read, time to recharge. When you get to your destination your mind is clear and ready to focus on the experience without much mental baggage from work or home.

      • Vanth@reddthat.com
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        2 days ago

        English language practice groups would give you a boost on learning and a potential pool of people who might be friend candidates.

        I second others' advice on friends first, not romance. Romantic relationships are friendships on super hard mode. Don't target romantic relationships if you haven't figured out friendships yet.

        Also this:

        Without any luxuries as insert girls on tinder and expect such trips from men

        ... makes you sound like an incel sad sack. Stop it. Literally, stop right now and don't go down that road any further. There are few red flags that burn brighter than this sort of opinion. It will scare both potential romantic partners and friends off. If you are consuming incel/red pill media, stop before it fucks up your brain even more.

      • Mesophar@lemm.ee
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        2 days ago

        Games, books, music, and travel are all great hobbies to find people to tall about as well, though! You just have to find ways to make them social. Sitting and playing CoD alone or with random match making aren't great ways to meet people, but getting involved in a discord server is a better way to meet people. Better still if you can find a local, in-person group that hosts meet-ups.

        But if you want to meet people amd make friends, you need to make time to meet people and form relationships with them.

  • hagelslager@feddit.nl
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    2 days ago

    Are there hobbygroups in your area? Keep the focus on the shared hobby and get to meet people through said mutual interest, don't focus on being there to make friends. Since the former leads to better relationships.

    • gamedeviancy@discuss.tchncs.de
      hexagon
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      2 days ago

      Only some gym, and 2-3 restaurants. It's a small town in middle of Europe. I have to drive about 100km to university by train every weekend because I study part-time.

      • keepcarrot [she/her]
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        2 days ago

        I found university quite social, but that varies from campus to campus. That said, after your part time classes, hang back at the university and see if there are any social goings-on. You'll get more bang for your 100km trip.

        If you're able to, anyway.

        Can't offer much on small town stuff, that's outside my experience