Took a little break from the internet and touched some grass and it was great. Wander back in here after my hiatus and what do I find? Just a thread with a bunch of fatphobia.

Cute.

For a community that is incredibly careful about protecting its users from the -phobias and the -isms, there sure is a hell of a lot of unchecked fatphobia here basically any time fatness gets brought up.

It’s something I’ve noticed on the left in general as well. The leftist org I’m in has almost no fat people in it and something tells me that’s not because there aren’t any fat leftists out there.

Fatphobia is rooted in anti-Blackness and ableism.

I’d highly recommend the “Maintenance Phase” podcast with Michael Hobbes and Aubrey Gordon, as well as Aubrey Gordon’s books “What We Don’t Talk About When We Talk About Fat” and “You Just Need To Lose Weight.”

TL;DR: There’s mounting evidence that anti-fat bias in medicine is more to blame for poor medical outcomes in fat people rather than just the fat itself.

Diet and exercise don’t result in long-term weight loss for something like 95% of people. As a leftist, are you really gonna sit here and blame this on individual choices rather than systemic issues? Are you really gonna try to convince us that 95% of people are just lacking willpower?

Please note that this thread is not an invitation to convince me I’m wrong or share your own personal anecdotal story of successful long-term weight loss with the implication that others can do it because you did it. This post is a request that any thin person (or thin-adjacent person) reading this who wants to argue about how being fat is bad for your health do some research and some self-crit. This post is a request that this community rethink the way it engages with discussions about fatness, diet, fatphobia, and anti-fat bias.

Anti-fat bias literally kills people.

  • CloutAtlas [he/him]
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    6 days ago

    I assume OP is referring to in the US/NA, depicting the bourgeoisie as obese in Europe and AES states developed independently of US racial relations.

    I don't know enough about it as I have never been to the US nor do I ever intend on going there.

    • Lussy [any, hy/hym]
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      6 days ago

      I don’t see the connection in the American context either

      • CloutAtlas [he/him]
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        6 days ago

        I wanna assume it's the connection of "soul food" and "laziness" stereotypes, and later on, probably the "luxurious welfare recipient" to black people in America because Americans are evil and it's an evil empire.

        Once again, I don't know for sure but there was definitely a shift from 1800's to mid 1900's where fat people went from being depicted as jolly and hearty to lazy and uncouth (in America. Not talking about depictions of capitalist pigs and fat cat bourgeoisie)