This doesn't surprise me at all... Just like bots in games. Selling a service that benefits another. Its shady, but definitely believable.

Also, what if this is an actual viable way to "market" for an open source project?

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/over-31-million-fake-stars-on-github-projects-used-to-boost-rankings

  • AItoothbrush@lemmy.zip
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    5 days ago

    I almost commented something like "thats extremely overpriced, why dont you set up a raspberry pi to do it for you for free" and then i realized the people who could do that dont need fake stars.

  • Magnetic_dud@discuss.tchncs.de
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    4 days ago

    Why a real person would star a project? When I star a project then my GitHub home is littered with activity from that project. I hate that, so I never star anything

  • phar@lemmy.ml
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    5 days ago

    I am not a programmer. But I have been using github as an end user for years, downloading programs I like and whatnot. Today I realized there are stars on github. Literally never even noticed.

  • BaumGeist@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    On the Caveat Emptor ("Let the buyer beware") side of things, I look at other metrics well before I rely on stars.

    How many contributors does it have? How many active forks? How many pull requests? How many issues are open and how many get solved and how often and how lively are the discussions? When was the last merge? How active is the maintainer?

    Stars might as well be facebook likes imo: when used as intended, they didn't say much more than "this is what the majority of people like" (surprise, I'm on lemmy bc I have other priorities than what's popular), now they mean nothing at all.

      • jagged_circle@feddit.nl
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        4 days ago

        I think you're joking, but if their accounts dont get banned immediately and the stars removed a week after you pay, then their stars are actually the bestest

        • HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml
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          4 days ago

          There's a chance their stars take so long because they might be using click farms to manually generate them which would be harder for spam detection to catch compared to generating stars with bots and hacked accounts, since technically there are actually x many people actually giving you stars, they're just being paid to do so.

  • toastal@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    Programming never needed these sorts of social media features in the first place. Do you part by getting your projects off of Microsoft’s social media platform used to try to sell you Copilot AI & take a cut of your donations to projects with Sponsors.

  • gazby@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 days ago

    For anyone interested in reading more on this type of thing, the colloquial term seems to be "SMM panel" where SMM is "social media marketing". EN Wikipedia has nothing of course, but DE has this: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMM-Panel.

  • jagged_circle@feddit.nl
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    4 days ago

    open collective has a minimum star limit to signup.

    But they accepted our project even though we didn't meet it. I always thought it was silly, and was glad they were flexible.

  • CrypticCoffee@lemmy.mlM
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    6 days ago

    Why would it be? Software is good based on it's use and recommendations from real folk, not *s. Many project not on github

    • 💭 ᴍɪɴʏᴀᴇɴ@lemmy.ml
      hexagon
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      6 days ago

      Yeah, I'd argue that the project can be good and not widely used. Do you think that there are projects with real use case and are great open source software and not widely used because its buried under the *s?

      It could be a relatively inexpensive way for niche marketing. Especially if the developer has a payment option with the software. Probably a decent way to get the software out in the open for profitability, no?

      • CrypticCoffee@lemmy.mlM
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        5 days ago

        That is more down to poor marketing. Here on Lemmy or reddit there are big open source communities where you can extol the values of it.

      • 💭 ᴍɪɴʏᴀᴇɴ@lemmy.ml
        hexagon
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        5 days ago

        Just trying to play a little devils advocate. Not saying that its ethical to do it, but if morals/ethics don't play a part in the decision, it could prove useful. Besides, I'd imagine that its already being extorted pretty heavily if there's that much competition for sellers, hah.

      • paradox2011@lemmy.ml
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        5 days ago

        From a pragmatic standpoint, yeah it would accomplish that goal. However, that discounts the intended purpose of the stars, which is to represent an individuals attribution of personal value and trust. They lose significance and become misleading if you can buy them, which holds true even for good software. When we see a github star is should represent someone who has used the software, finds value in it or who respects and trusts the project.

    • glans [it/its]
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      5 days ago

      Well for me personally if I am seeking an application to solve a problem and there are 2 comparable options which are on github, I will first try the one with more stars. Especially if there is a large discrepancy.

      When I compare a github vs a non-github project I take into consideration that the other code forge has fewer users, and also I generally prefer devs who take the initiative to get off github. So I will usually give them a go unless the project is too incomplete/stale/inactive.

  • EmilieEvans@lemmy.ml
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    5 days ago

    Also, what if this is an actual viable way to “market” for an open-source project?

    I am fortunate enough to not market my stuff:

    If somebody finds and can make use of it. Great.

    In the other case who cares? Didn't hurt or cost me anything to publish it.

    Fake GitHub stares have other implications: Typosquatting is a real issue and fake stars make it more convincing that it is the genuine project.