• Aidinthel@reddthat.com
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    1 year ago

    I'm sorry, what? Are they defining "democratic" to mean that each government has a say, regardless of how democratic that government itself actually is?

    • §ɦṛɛɗɗịɛ ßịⱺ𝔩ⱺɠịᵴŧ@lemmy.ml
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Sanctions and wide spread use off the of the dollar needs to be addressed in a global democratic fashion. The USA hasn't resembled anything near democratic for a bit, yet kill innocent citizens globally in the name of democracy. In the same way each vote should mean something in a democratic country, each country should have a say in what takes place globally. Makes sense when they're orchestrating multipolar international rule.

    • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Just because a country does not conform to a Western definition of "democratic", doesn't mean that that country is not a democracy.

      I would personally say that the United States is not a democracy by a typical definition, because voters don't actually have the choice to vote for anything they like, and not just crank things but even things that are very popular and very important - medicare for all is a popular policy that neither party represents for example, and third parties are so disempowered by the voting system that it is essentially impossible (but not technically! as if that matters!) for any other party to gain power in their place. The generally low approval ratings for various parts of the government (the Senate, the presidency, the Supreme Court) are an indication of this. Is the mere ability to choose between two options, especially bad options, really a good definition of democracy? Might, perhaps, there be better ones?

      Compare this to China. Sure, it's a one-party state, but it's a communist one-party state, as opposed to the United States' capitalist one party state that is merely separated into two separate parties to meet their own, bad, definition of democracy. That being said, it's actually quite a highly decentralized country, with regional and local officials elected by the people. More importantly, it has very high approval ratings and the people's needs are generally met. I think this is a much better definition of democracy because where the people's needs are made the priority. It's harder to game that kind of system - the former definition has the "cheat code" of just splitting one party in two and then having the rich "lobby" both of them (AKA, legalized corruption) to have the same policies where it counts, whereas the latter can't do that, it actually has to deliver the goods. Of course, it's not as if you can't have both - a system where you can choose everything about your country, and one where most people's needs are generally met and most people approve. But if we have to have one or the other, the latter is the more important feature, IMO.

      • orizuru@lemmy.sdf.org
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        1 year ago

        Sure, it's a one-party state, but it's a communist one-party state

        Wasn't communism supposed to be a classless, stateless, and moneyless society?

        people's needs are generally met

        Except if you're a political dissident or a Uyghur.

        You also seem to overlook the massive state surveillance apparatus. The NSA and FBI are probably jealous of how far reaching some of the Chinese systems are.

        China is essentially an autocratic state-capitalist country, with some communist aesthetics.

        But then again, your comment is nothing I wouldn't expect from someone from hexbear.

    • iridaniotter [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Yes, the author chose that word and the content of the article suggests it's meant as respecting countries' sovereignty and reducing the concentration of global political power.