Lain "State of Wu documents from 230 BC show friendly relations between China and Taiwan"
WP: "The earliest references to this effect are to be found, among others, in Seaboard Geographic Gazetteer compiled in the year 230 by Shen Ying of the State of Wu during the Three Kingdoms Period. The royal court of the Sui Dynasty had on three occasions sent troops to Taiwan, called Liuqiu at that time.”
Oh, it's that Wu. Sun Wu is completely different from the state of Wu, which is a ducal state during the Zhou dynasty. And identifying Liuqiu as Taiwan is not wrong per se since Taiwan was known as Liuqiu at various stages of history but pretty iffy since Liuqiu is what Okinawans call the Ryukyu islands. From here, 琉球民族 is romanized as Ruuchuu minzuku in Okinawan and Liuqiu minzu in Mandarin. The Ryukyu kingdom is Liuqiu guo in Mandarin although the kingdom apparently got the name because the Ming emperor bestowed the title King of Liuqiu on the ruler of the kingdom. It's complicated.
You say that administrative bodies were only set up in the Penghu Islands, but the white paper reads: “Starting from the Song and Yuan dynasties, the imperial central governments of China all set up administrative bodies to exercise jurisdiction over Penghu and Taiwan."
I checked a bunch of Chinese maps on Southern Song and the Yuan dynasty. None of the Southern Song maps include Taiwan and most of the Yuan dynasty maps don't include Taiwan either. There's some maps like these where they just label the entire Mongol empire as the Yuan dynasty. This actually makes de jure sense since the entire Mongol empire was officially called the Yuan dynasty. But even these maps exclude Taiwan. I get why those maps wouldn't include the Penghu islands since they're so small anyways, but to me, the fact that they don't include Taiwan means that most likely, Southern Song/Yuan didn't administer Taiwan on a meaningful level.
Why? I also don’t get how your quote demonstrates anything.
My point is about how having an airline in Taiwan called Chinese Airlines isn't convincing while the ROC constitution which only mentions Taiwan by name once makes a far stronger case that Taiwan is just the name of an island while the government still politically sees itself as China. I just see "well, they call random stuff Chinese instead of Taiwanese" the flip side of Taiwanese separatists soyfacing that the ROC passport has Taiwan in bigger letters than the Republic of China, never mind that the Chinese characters still say Republic of China.
Oh, it's that Wu. Sun Wu is completely different from the state of Wu, which is a ducal state during the Zhou dynasty. And identifying Liuqiu as Taiwan is not wrong per se since Taiwan was known as Liuqiu at various stages of history but pretty iffy since Liuqiu is what Okinawans call the Ryukyu islands. From here, 琉球民族 is romanized as Ruuchuu minzuku in Okinawan and Liuqiu minzu in Mandarin. The Ryukyu kingdom is Liuqiu guo in Mandarin although the kingdom apparently got the name because the Ming emperor bestowed the title King of Liuqiu on the ruler of the kingdom. It's complicated.
I checked a bunch of Chinese maps on Southern Song and the Yuan dynasty. None of the Southern Song maps include Taiwan and most of the Yuan dynasty maps don't include Taiwan either. There's some maps like these where they just label the entire Mongol empire as the Yuan dynasty. This actually makes de jure sense since the entire Mongol empire was officially called the Yuan dynasty. But even these maps exclude Taiwan. I get why those maps wouldn't include the Penghu islands since they're so small anyways, but to me, the fact that they don't include Taiwan means that most likely, Southern Song/Yuan didn't administer Taiwan on a meaningful level.
My point is about how having an airline in Taiwan called Chinese Airlines isn't convincing while the ROC constitution which only mentions Taiwan by name once makes a far stronger case that Taiwan is just the name of an island while the government still politically sees itself as China. I just see "well, they call random stuff Chinese instead of Taiwanese" the flip side of Taiwanese separatists soyfacing that the ROC passport has Taiwan in bigger letters than the Republic of China, never mind that the Chinese characters still say Republic of China.
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