I've seen Smash Bros mentioned on ChaCha here and there but I don't know if I've seen a dedicated thread yet. By semi-serious I'm not talking professional level obviously - I just mean preferring playing 1v1 with a competitive ruleset (no items, tourney legal stages, etc.) and taking it somewhat seriously as a hobby, treating it more like a fighting game than a party game (nothing wrong with the latter, mind you!)

I'm far from amazing but I've got a not half-bad Snake as my main and respectable enough Cloud and Bowser secondaries. Just for fun, I also fuck around with Joker, Lucina, Wolf, Byleth, and very occasionally Game and Watch, Dorf, and Zero Suit Samus. The group of friends I play with all hate fighting Snake, which I know is a common sentiment :( but I love the hell out of him and think he's easily the hypest projectile zoner IMHO.

What about ya'll - anyone else dorkily invested in this crossover party game for children? Obviously I'm focused on Ultimate but Melee and Project M are cool too, though I don't play them personally.

(P.S. still heartbroken that Travis Touchdown was deconfirmed as a DLC character, RIP)

  • Necco [any]
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    4 years ago

    Yea I go to locals (or did before the rona). I'm not incredible but I do ok in bracket. I'm learning Ridley right now but I mostly play Doc, Wii Fit and Diddy as well as DK, Villager and Brawler for kicks.

    • SoylentSnake [he/him, they/them]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      That's dope! My friends and I have been talking about going to locals once things go back to normal a bit. I suspect we'd get bodied pretty badly, but hey, that's part of learning and improving.

      • Necco [any]
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        4 years ago

        Getting bodied is part of the process. First time i went i got 2-0'd winners and losers. My goal has always been to make it one bracket level deeper than my previous run. I'm down to arena sometime if you want

        • SoylentSnake [he/him, they/them]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          That could be cool! Someone else in this thread suggested similar. I wonder if the new Chapo /c/games discord would be a good place to organize people who might be interested? Worth noting that I am adjusting to a new job right now so don't have quite as much time to play as I'd like - but still definitely open to it. It'd be good to get some more focused practice with a broader variety of players, and staying within the Chapo pool helps alleviate some of the social anxiety I (and I would guess others) might feel around coordinating this stuff (at the very least, we'll know we aren't playing with chuds lol)

  • SovietyWoomy [any]
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    4 years ago

    I played with a competitive group and entered some tournaments back in the brawl days. I haven't played as much recently, but I'm down for competitive 1v1s later.

    I still haven't really decided on a main in ultimate. If I had to choose it would probably be Sans, but I also play Hero and Lucina.

    • SoylentSnake [he/him, they/them]
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      4 years ago

      I feel like Lucina is a good character to have some experience with even if you don't end up playing her seriously since she's such a no bullshit, fundamentals based character. At the very least, I know picking her up helped me progress past a skill plateau I had hit.

      1v1's would be cool - though I'm currently adjusting to a new job so don't have quite as much time to play as I'd like. I wonder if the new Chapo /c/gaming discord could be a good place to organize smash sessions?

  • Tomboys_are_Cute [he/him, comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    I main little mac and currently average around 8.1million GSP. I would organise community tournaments (school groups, work groups, that sorta deal) but never went out to play in a more serious local or anything like that. Kinda regret it now.

      • Tomboys_are_Cute [he/him, comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Little Mac plays differently to other characters on a fundamental level. There is basically no air play and recovery once off the edge is extremely perilous. To make up for it though you have the most super armor of any character by a lot, Im pretty sure more frames than the next 4 characters combined.

        Tips for play:

        • learn the super armor frames. Practice trying to punch through an attack rather than dodging or shielding.

        • d-tilt is your friend

        • up tilt combos into itself until 20% at least

        • KO punch goes through shield like it isn't there. No shield break, only death. On FD kills every character at 23%, 24% on Battlefield

        • the counter is a great recovery tool

        • I think the technique is called dash dancing? Basically just the start of a run repeatedly. Get used to moving like that because you can get close to running speeds with your full repertoire.

        • smash stick is not only viable but recommended

        • N-Air, Jab, and the first punch of the F-tilt are frame 1 moves.

  • Doomer [comrade/them,any]
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    4 years ago

    I got pretty good for a while, but couldn't cut it at the pro tournaments.

    The smell of the place always threw my game off.

    Also, they found out I wasn't sexually interested in teenage girls and threw me out.

    • Shmyt [he/him,any]
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      4 years ago

      You might still got a chance comrade, lots of smash pros groomed teenage boys too

  • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I picked up some Melee casually with friends last year, and now netplay is really good so I've kept playing with other friends.

    I personally can't stand playing ultimate though. Something about the way the movement is defined doesn't jive with my expectation of how movement ought to work, so I just get shmoved on all the time. Not to mention that the online for Ultimate for me is unplayably laggy, so I don't keep it installed anymore.

    Melee though is just cool. My friends and I describe it as having a basic set of axioms, and as long as the movement you try to do doesn't break the physics engine, it'll let you do it. The more modern games on the other hand are more of a state machine; all of the things that you can do are pretty much predefined by the developers. What this means is that there isn't an infinite skill ceiling in the same way. But even beyond that, I really enjoy the way movement in Melee feels. The controls are difficult, but they're very tight, and when you start executing better, the cool factor for what you can do to an opponent goes up. That's something that I think Ultimate failed to capture, I think in part because of Sakurai's insistence that Smash be treated as a casual party game only, and goes out of his way to try and neuter what makes the game viable as a competitive fighter.

    • SSJBlueStalin [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The 1v1 fox meta make melee a viable anime fighter.

      1v1 low items is a perfectly valid local format that regular people can vibe with just as well

  • Shmyt [he/him,any]
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    4 years ago

    I wanted to be good at ultimate; I sucked at melee but loved it, was awful at brawl, did okay on 3ds until I dropped it out of a car, and in ultimate I just can't find any playstyle I can stick with. It doesn't help that I just ain't got the mechanics/mind for high level play.

    Maybe I could set aside some time to do drills and then practice again to get into it but none of my roommates play. Doesn't help that I haven't got an ethernet adapter for the switch here; I left it with my brother when I moved out since he's much better than me and gets actual use out of it.

  • bimbusbumbus [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I played Ultimate for a few months when it came out but the game felt really weird, like they clearly tried to make the game faster than 4 but the input lag and exessive input buffering time makes it feel weird. I ended up moving onto other games cause of that.

  • SSJBlueStalin [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Whats the pro move emulate it and then play with parsex to best the dual wifi netcode?