Hello users of Hexbear,

I wanted to make this post to inform you that hexbear will be temporarily changing to requiring an application for new users. This will stay in effect until after the upcoming pictrs version, and the development of additional mod tooling.

After many complaints mods may begin removing Yakub memes as well as any explicit comment asking a user to post hog, the difference is that while "post hog" is allowed with extreme prejudice commenting "show us your tiny penis" is not allowed, removals will be subject to moderator discretion.

In addition, we would like to reiterate that Hexbear is a space for all our comrades, even if you may not understand their experience, please refrain from labeling a fellow user a wrecker or troll. Using conditions as a pejorative is not allowed, please engage in good-faith and remember the human!

Finally I wanted to hear the user's thoughts, opinions, comments, and proposals regarding Hexbear's recent federation with other lemmy instances.

There are two mod based proposals that I wish to open voting on:

  1. Should we add sh.itjust.works to the hexbear.net/instances allow-list
  2. Should we remove lemm.ee from the hexbear.net/instances allow-list

Use dean-frown to vote for removing lemm.ee from the allow-list 11

Use dean-smile to vote for adding sh.itjust.works to the allow-list 111

Use dean-neutral to vote for keeping the allow-list as is (lemm.ee on the list and sh.itjustworks off the list) 60

As always thank you to the moderators and users for making this place amazing!

Votes as of Aliveelectricwire please correct me if my count is wrong.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    1 year ago

    The very short version

    • Yakub is a figure in Nation of Islam mythology derived from the Hebrew patriarch Jacob

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    • In NOI mythology Yakub used eugenics to create white people from ancient black people

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    • due to the horrible methods Yakub used and his evil intentions white people are incapable of empathy and compassion and can only do evil

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    • 4Chan found out that the NOI exists a few years ago

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    • 4Chan created the (CW: 4chan bullshit)
    spoiler

    "We were kings" meme, usually with "we were kings" deliberately misspelled and accompanied by racist imagery

    . This was inspired by both NOI beliefs and Hotep beliefs

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    • At some point the Chapos found out about the 4Chan meme and began ironically adopting the NOI position in response, referring to white people as Yakubian devils or variations of that

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    • It stuck around on Hexbear

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    • It's not appropriate for white people to be making jokes about a black religious and political movement

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    • The NOI mythology was created during the 1930s when eugenics was a popular concept. It inverts contemporary white "race science", essentially reversing the roles of white people and black people under a similar, religiously influenced psuedoscientific narrative.

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    • The NOI call themselves Muslims. Their religious beliefs are a very idiosyncratic mixture of Christian, Muslim, and original beliefs. They were not closely related to Sunni or Shi'a Islam

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    • When the founder of the NOI died in 1975 his son and successor disbanded the organization and re-formed it. The new organization went through several names before settling on the American Society of Muslims. The American Society of Muslims rejected most NOI beliefs, becoming much closer to mainstream Sunni Islam

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    • After the NOI was disbanded Louis Farrakhan and a splinter group formed a continuation of the NOI. This sect is notorious for it's racial superiority ideology, anti-semitism, homophobia, and generally being reactionary jerks

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    • No one really likes the NOI. They have little mainstream support but continue to have some cultural influence

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    • Trivia - Louis Farrakhan probably ordered the assassination of el-Hajj Malik el-Shabazz, also known as Malcolm X
    • mkultrawide [any]
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      1 year ago

      At some point the Chapos found out about the 4Chan meme and began ironically adopting the NOI position in response, referring to white people as Yakubian devils or variations of that

      Where you you getting that they picked this up from 4Chan? They live(d) in one of the few cities on Earth where you can get yelled at by NOI/Black Israelites in public. They also just follow hotep/ADOS posters like Tariq Nasheed (why Felix always jokes about Buck Breaking).

        • mars [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          I have no problem with the yakub stuff being banned, but I guess I don't really get how calling someone a y***** devil is much different than a non-muslim ironically using the "Haram" meme on our site. I never interpreted either as being derogatory towards POC, but at the same time I will not care at all if they both were banned, especially if POC have specifically asked us to. So yeah maybe I shouldn't have even asked lol, not trying to be difficult I'm just dumb.

      • Othello
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        2 months ago

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