Hello users of Hexbear,
I wanted to make this post to inform you that hexbear will be temporarily changing to requiring an application for new users. This will stay in effect until after the upcoming pictrs version, and the development of additional mod tooling.
After many complaints mods may begin removing Yakub memes as well as any explicit comment asking a user to post hog, the difference is that while "post hog" is allowed with extreme prejudice commenting "show us your tiny penis" is not allowed, removals will be subject to moderator discretion.
In addition, we would like to reiterate that Hexbear is a space for all our comrades, even if you may not understand their experience, please refrain from labeling a fellow user a wrecker or troll. Using conditions as a pejorative is not allowed, please engage in good-faith and remember the human!
Finally I wanted to hear the user's thoughts, opinions, comments, and proposals regarding Hexbear's recent federation with other lemmy instances.
There are two mod based proposals that I wish to open voting on:
- Should we add sh.itjust.works to the hexbear.net/instances allow-list
- Should we remove lemm.ee from the hexbear.net/instances allow-list
Use 
to vote for removing lemm.ee from the allow-list 11
Use 
to vote for adding sh.itjust.works to the allow-list 111
Use 
to vote for keeping the allow-list as is (lemm.ee on the list and sh.itjustworks off the list) 60
As always thank you to the moderators and users for making this place amazing!
Votes as of Aliveelectricwire please correct me if my count is wrong.
You try so hard to be reasonable and then you get a pie in the face for your troubles
Keep up the good work o7 o7
I have never seen Breaking Bad why do we have so many emotes from it
Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul are each about as close as realistically possible to 10/10 series. Both are complete shows. No sudden budget cuts or rushed finales.
Because it is a great show with lots of memeable content. I held off watching it for a long time because so much just hit too close to home (meth dealing, ODs, gang murders and other senseless deaths of poor young people) but when I finally watched it I "got it" why it was so popular, even if misunderstood by many of its viewers as is the case with much good art.
I will never get tired of these Mike posts. Godspeed.
lemm.ee is chill. I actually have respect for the admin since he's probably the only non-Socialist admin on lemmy who doesn't want to create an echo chamber. That's why I behave nicely when interacting on lemm.ee and the instances that still federate with us.
I love having every comment section peppered with a few incredibly lib takes. It's like lib dunking takeout in it's convenience.
dunking on the libs aside and focusing purely on the answers in response, it's kinda using Cunningham's Law (the best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer), because I feel like while there's obviously still discussion on this site about topics, what really gets the discussion started, and the paragraphs and sources and references to things I didn't previously know about flowing, is when a lib comes in and says something completely unhinged or incorrect
Really wish we had a huge wiki page for that kind of stuff. We could avoid having to answer and relitigate things like that.
We could avoid having to answer and relitigate things like that.
I love your optimism but this just isn't true.
Okay let me rephrase. We would avoid some of the relitigation and answer a lot of common questions by linking the wiki.
The average Lemmy user will not read a linked article. The only way to get them to read an argument is if it’s written to them organically as a comment. A wiki could be helpful for internal use and research though. ProleWiki exists for that at least.
Is it possible to make the wiki page record how long a user has looked at a particular page? Hit them with the "great job reading 800 words in 1.3 seconds"
That’d be hilarious but would probably be too inconsistent to be worth much. It would likely require a browser cookie which many users disable/clear. Maybe someone downloads the page and views it offline (reader mode?), or they open the tab but only get around to reading it 4,000 hours later. Anything except an eyeball tracker would not work. (In before Apple VR headset replaces the ad-click payment model with eye-seconds payment model…)
It doesn't have to be that complicated. Think n-word count bot. It doesn't have to perfectly catch everyone but the threat keeps them in line.
I'm just brainstorming
Reminds me of my days fighting in the MTC Struggle session during the Hong Kong protests.
mods may begin removing Yakub memes
Finally I wanted to hear the user's thoughts, opinions, comments, and proposals regarding Hexbear's recent federation with other lemmy instances.
I was skeptical, but it's gone okay. I like flipping to All and seeing other instances and what they're talking about. I just wish the users here were a bit less enthusiastic about posting about how they epically owned the libs on them, or some terrible take from a lib on another instance; that part does get a bit tiring to be honest. But federation itself has worked fine imo.
Yeah, I don't enjoy having to wade through a bunch of metaposts about federation to get to my actual Hexbear posts. I'm hoping people will get that out of their system and it'll just die down naturally.
I think federation is getting better. The Libs are either learning or revealing their true colours, and frankly the amount of successful converts is too satisfying, let's not stop now.
I'm starting to come around to a more open federation policy because it's been a lot of fun.
or would both be fine, I don't see a reason to defederate from lemm.ee.commenting "show us your tiny penis" is not allowed
But fair enough I guess.
i agree. i dont think we should defederate from even programming.dev even tho they might be even more frothing neoliberal than lemm.ee. its fun arguing with them and then dunking on them in the tank
.ee seems to have some alright posters and they haven't flooded my feed with shitty ai art or terrible memes.
I don't know anything about howshitworks.
I gotta say, I have seen good takes on ee. I get that the lib takes get repeated, but many have been pretty sucdem level of ok.
We immediately federate with everyone including the Nazi instances and then we bully the Nazis out of their spaces
Isn't shitjustworks an explicitly anti-communist instance? I don't know.
The real test for federation will be how annoying the site becomes as we approach the 2024 election.
Oh they are the one with the anti lemmygrad comm.
Lmao fuck them.
We just had this conversation.
they have open community creation, that is just one dweeb who's obsessed with the grad, in an instance of thousands of users, not the position of their admins (who iirc are just canadian libs, but they aren't obsessive anti communists)
I just looked they are the NonCredibleDefense nerds. Iirc there was something else that made us to tell them to get fucked a while ago.
In regards to the federation vibe check - I was worried that federation would ruin the comfy vibes of our website and our sense of community. I'm glad that it didn't turn out that way. Our posters are too damn powerful
I don't know what is this new instance about but let them in. It's too fun to dunk on lemm.ee users so we should keep them in as well. Besides, some of them turned out to be coolcoming in to give my two cents I guess (i encourage other black users to do the same). if youre white DONT make Yakub jokes, thats weird as hell. me? I should be able to call you krackers everything but a child of god. how do we determine who can say what? honor system I guess unless we all wanna pull a black people twitter where the mods verify your acount but you know
me personally ill do it if it gets people to stop calling me a wrecker FOR EXPRESSING EXTREMELY COMMON normie ass opinions. white people support black pride and dignity until we start setting boundaries around yall. (you know who you are, ive unblocked all but one of you so you can read Frantz Fanon with us, consider your crimes of posting cringe forgiven in the name of comradery and reading)
More to pipeline.
Every thread mentioning socialism that we don't participate in just creates more anticommunist nerds. Same for china topics and so on. We should be everywhere.
We will also find more comrades and every single comrade we gain is objectively worth the mental suffering of bad lib takes.
I think also that as time has gone on issues have eased off. The worst libs have been permabanned and now things are calmer. It's pretty clear that federation creates an initial problem that explodes followed by things chilling out as the numbers of problem people thin out due to moderation. We can handle initial problems until things cool off as they have done everywhere else. Maintaining communication lines and being persistent about the fact that things calm down and settle as moderation reaches maturation is probably essential to making these federations work though.
mods may begin removing Yakub memes as well as any explicit comment asking a user to post hog
I'm not really sure how to use these emojis and don't think I should have a vote in this decision as my account is 3 hours old at this point.
But I hope hexbear keeps federations open as I first got exposed to it on lemm.ee
I think I have found my place and I think more lemmy users should have the opportunity to do the same.
What’s this shitjustworks place, wasn’t this discussed a little while ago and decided against cause they are shit? Or am I misremembering
Yep, we talked about how they have the https://sh.itjust.works/c/meanwhileongrad comm which has a racist edit of Xi Jinping as winnie the pooh as its profile image.
Wasn't it like last week we talked about adding them and decided they suck to much ?
Oh after seeing the top comment I remember that conversation.
Lol
i can't say my experience browsing this website has improved since this whole 'federation' business. i type 'hexbear.net' in my internet browser expecting to see posts from that website, but instead i see a bunch of posts from a different website called 'Lemmy' filled with some of the most reddit-brained people outside of reddit. (nevermind that half the posts are meta-posts about the site itself) i just wanna browse hexbear, dammit!
if i wanted to browse those other websites i would just do that.
