Instagram, FB Mesenger, SMS...? IDK why you guys don't just use WhatsApp. It's the standard messaging app everywhere in the world (except the US, of course)
EDIT: Wow, lots of people in denial ITT. Look, it's simple: you can hate Meta/Facebook as much as you want (and I do), but you can't deny that WhatsApp is a great product, feature-wise. People who compare it to SMS, Instagram chat, FB messenger or anything else are honestly laughable. The only service that can hold a candle against it is perhaps Telegram
Owned by meta but better than fb and insta messages because of e2ee.
Still wish i could delete it (have it inside a shelter work profile).
Matrix bridging is an option for whatsapp as well as sms, discord, and others, although it does make using these services more private (beyond not having the app installed).
Because this website is an echo chamber that hates big corporations and think the holy grail is to avoid having an online footprint by not using big apps, thus achieving "privacy".
That's not the implication at all and the fact that you even think that just shows how fucking dumb you are. The weeb shit is just the cherry on top lmao
Why does a corporation's opinion of you mean anything? Why do you care if they care? You choose to use their products. Nothing is free, and if you don't like them earning money by showing you ads, don't use their products.
Why does a corporation's opinion of you mean anything?
Because they don't need your simpering sycophantic posting here. They got legal teams and lots of political protections.
Why do you care if they care?
Because they're making society and the world worse entirely for profit and they're also conditioning ignorant people like you to stan for them.
You choose to use their products.
In general, not as much as you think and when I have no choice to do so, that isn't a choice, is it?
Nothing is free, and if you don't like them earning money by showing you ads, don't use their products.
You are a laughably pathetic bootlicker if you're sinking to those thoughtless platitudes.
Pollution happens whether or not an individual buys into the product. Erosions of personal legal protections happen when the lobbyists encroach a little more. "Vote with your wallet" does absolutely nothing at a societal level but I think you're too willfully sycophantic to understand that.
That wasn't the bootlicker's argument. The full context of what he was arguing was "businesses doing whatever they want to make money is good actually and voting with your wallet is all you're allowed to do no matter how systemic and societal consequences harm you."
Hurting people for profit? Who are they hurting? It's a free market, and it's your choice to use their products or not. Just stop fucking whining about it all the time.
You're a corporate slave only if you choose to be. This isn't some 1984 dystopia as you try to make it out to be.
Start worrying about real issues. You're a free person and I believe in you :)
You seem to care a lot about not caring. You keep posting. That apathy is looking as hollow as your ideology.
Hurting people for profit?
Yes. If you weren't ignorant, you'd understand that "it's just business, businesses exist to turn a profit" and implying that's a good thing and the best possible system means lots of extra pollution, safety corners cut, and sometimes even bloody coups for the sake of additional profits in far corners of the world or outright slavery in impoverished nations. Again, all for profit. That hurts people. You're that dense.
Just stop fucking whining about it all the time.
Stop whining about people calling out an obvious reality that you don't like.
You're a corporate slave only if you choose to be.
People around the world don't have that choice, especially when toxic waste is dumped where they live or when their governments are destabilized and replaced with puppets representing corporate interests to further loot their lands.
This isn't some 1984 dystopia as you try to make it out to be.
Of course that's your only frame of reference. Because you're ignorant.
You're a free person and I believe in you :)
Your concern trolling attempt, smiley and all, makes you sound like the juvenile contrarian that you are.
Now you're talking about the real issues I mentioned. I'm glad to have awakened your sense of justice, and hope you stop crying about optional internet cookies.
You instantly resort to name-calling and personal insults while calling me juvenile, like a true keyboard warrior, so I think we're done here.
No one else here is licking boots like you are in this thread and you've been doing it for hours. You care that much about other people caring about corporate greed fucking them over, as well as fucking society and the planet we live on.
You instantly resort to name-calling and personal insults
Because this website is an echo chamber
Yeah disagreeing with a tiny army of lemmings
You're an exceptionally hypocritical crybully that gets off to feeling so very smart by being contrarian in a thread full of people that dare to acknowledge reality, unlike you.
and hope you stop crying
You can log out any time you like and return to a circlejerk website of your choosing where you can all pretend you're free thinkers for agreeing with each other there.
Huh, dude, I am forced to use WhatsApp because it is the number 1 app here where I live, nobody even used SMS, which I actually didn't believe was a thing until another lemming pointed it out lol.
WhatsApp has always been behind other options such as Telegram, for example their WhatsApp web implementation is a huge joke compared to Telegram, or the way it stores the data too.
The way Whatsapp stores data is arguably more secure than Telegram, i.e. not in the cloud but only locally. It sucks if you lose access to your phone and you have not set up backups via iCloud/Google Drive, but it's definitely better in terms of privacy and security.
Instagram, FB Mesenger, SMS...? IDK why you guys don't just use WhatsApp. It's the standard messaging app everywhere in the world (except the US, of course)
EDIT: Wow, lots of people in denial ITT. Look, it's simple: you can hate Meta/Facebook as much as you want (and I do), but you can't deny that WhatsApp is a great product, feature-wise. People who compare it to SMS, Instagram chat, FB messenger or anything else are honestly laughable. The only service that can hold a candle against it is perhaps Telegram
Owned by meta but better than fb and insta messages because of e2ee.
Still wish i could delete it (have it inside a shelter work profile).
Matrix bridging is an option for whatsapp as well as sms, discord, and others, although it does make using these services more private (beyond not having the app installed).
If everyone is already on platform X why would they install app W?
Because this website is an echo chamber that hates big corporations and think the holy grail is to avoid having an online footprint by not using big apps, thus achieving "privacy".
In reality they're a minority of about 100:1.
Your own implication is that being an enlightened free thinker is to stan for big corporations, for free, that don't care if you live or die.
You're fucking pathetic and I feel sorry for you.
That's not the implication at all and the fact that you even think that just shows how fucking dumb you are. The weeb shit is just the cherry on top lmao
It is, even if you say "nuh uh."
You've come, voluntarily and unsolicited, to stan for corpos that don't care if you live or die.
Using an emoji is weeb shit? Okay boomer.
Ending with that doesn't hide your impotent rage.
Noted weeb UlyssesT who loves shonen manga and jpop, everybody knows him
Shhhhhh! Don't give away the game.
The bootlicker's ignorance is producing such amazing takes. I want to keep this bootlicker going as long as possible.
Why does a corporation's opinion of you mean anything? Why do you care if they care? You choose to use their products. Nothing is free, and if you don't like them earning money by showing you ads, don't use their products.
Because they don't need your simpering sycophantic posting here. They got legal teams and lots of political protections.
Because they're making society and the world worse entirely for profit and they're also conditioning ignorant people like you to stan for them.
In general, not as much as you think and when I have no choice to do so, that isn't a choice, is it?
You are a laughably pathetic bootlicker if you're sinking to those thoughtless platitudes.
Pollution happens whether or not an individual buys into the product. Erosions of personal legal protections happen when the lobbyists encroach a little more. "Vote with your wallet" does absolutely nothing at a societal level but I think you're too willfully sycophantic to understand that.
Yes. But not via Whatsapp, that's all. It's probably the least bad app they own
That wasn't the bootlicker's argument. The full context of what he was arguing was "businesses doing whatever they want to make money is good actually and voting with your wallet is all you're allowed to do no matter how systemic and societal consequences harm you."
deleted by creator
Yeah disagreeing with a tiny army of lemmings is bootlicking, makes sense
You think you're standing against a both-too-weak-and-too-strong army of conformists by... stanning for corpos that don't care if you live or die.
That's sad.
You care too much about their regard for your well-being. Of course they don't give a shit. Why would they? It's business.
You care a whole lot about performatively not caring. Contrarianism for its own sake is juvenile.
"Hurting people for profit is cool and the best system should reward more of that!"
You are incredibly fucking ignorant and pathetic.
LARPing as your corporate masters by admiring their ideology won't elevate you.
Licking that boot won't earn you the privilege of wearing it.
Hurting people for profit? Who are they hurting? It's a free market, and it's your choice to use their products or not. Just stop fucking whining about it all the time.
You're a corporate slave only if you choose to be. This isn't some 1984 dystopia as you try to make it out to be.
Start worrying about real issues. You're a free person and I believe in you :)
You seem to care a lot about not caring. You keep posting. That apathy is looking as hollow as your ideology.
Yes. If you weren't ignorant, you'd understand that "it's just business, businesses exist to turn a profit" and implying that's a good thing and the best possible system means lots of extra pollution, safety corners cut, and sometimes even bloody coups for the sake of additional profits in far corners of the world or outright slavery in impoverished nations. Again, all for profit. That hurts people. You're that dense.
Stop whining about people calling out an obvious reality that you don't like.
People around the world don't have that choice, especially when toxic waste is dumped where they live or when their governments are destabilized and replaced with puppets representing corporate interests to further loot their lands.
Of course that's your only frame of reference. Because you're ignorant.
Your concern trolling attempt, smiley and all, makes you sound like the juvenile contrarian that you are.
Now you're talking about the real issues I mentioned. I'm glad to have awakened your sense of justice, and hope you stop crying about optional internet cookies.
You instantly resort to name-calling and personal insults while calling me juvenile, like a true keyboard warrior, so I think we're done here.
No one else here is licking boots like you are in this thread and you've been doing it for hours. You care that much about other people caring about corporate greed fucking them over, as well as fucking society and the planet we live on.
You're an exceptionally hypocritical crybully that gets off to feeling so very smart by being contrarian in a thread full of people that dare to acknowledge reality, unlike you.
You can log out any time you like and return to a circlejerk website of your choosing where you can all pretend you're free thinkers for agreeing with each other there.
Oh, the irony..
You're a minority of one that's been posting for hours while complaining about other people ostensibly caring too much.
How many more hours is your circus going to be running today, corpo clown?
That shitty app sucked even before Meta acquired it 🤡
🎶"He's gonna take you back to the past. To use shitty apps that suck ass. He'd rather have-"🎶
You either don't know what you're talking about or you're just commenting in bad faith
Huh, dude, I am forced to use WhatsApp because it is the number 1 app here where I live, nobody even used SMS, which I actually didn't believe was a thing until another lemming pointed it out lol.
WhatsApp has always been behind other options such as Telegram, for example their WhatsApp web implementation is a huge joke compared to Telegram, or the way it stores the data too.
The way Whatsapp stores data is arguably more secure than Telegram, i.e. not in the cloud but only locally. It sucks if you lose access to your phone and you have not set up backups via iCloud/Google Drive, but it's definitely better in terms of privacy and security.
I've never had a Facebook account, I've never had an insta account, but I do use WhatsApp.
Pretty much everyone I know whether old or young uses WhatsApp. When I was travelling, a lot of apartments, hotels and booking services used it too.
Seems to be the one messaging app that cuts across all generations, countries and also the Android/IOS divide.