cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/2089998

Archived version: https://archive.ph/X5D30
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  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    There literally is in most states, depending on the judge:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense

    • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      There literally is not. That's a legal defense that lawyers use. It doesn't instantly exonerate the crime.

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        depending on the judge

        To treat it as a valid legal defense is an abomination and judges have countless times ruled in favor of the perpetrator on just the basis of that defense.

        • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
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          1 year ago

          That's not a legal exception, that's just a corrupt judge. Do you not have those in Canada?

          • mayo_cider [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Do you understand how precedent works in the US court system? I mean, I fully agree that US judges and laws are corrupt, but it doesn't change the fact that those laws and judges are still upheld by the state

            • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
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              1 year ago

              Yes I understand. I asked a question, would you like to answer it? Did you not notice that people use this same defense in other countries?

              • mayo_cider [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                Yes, there are homophobic laws elsewhere as well, it doesn't change the status quo in US

                • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
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                  1 year ago

                  We've already been over this several times now, there are no homophobic laws in the US.

                  The topic of conversation is a warning to "queer" people about going into the US, as if it is more dangerous than the country they're leaving. So yes, it matters.

                  • mayo_cider [he/him]
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                    1 year ago

                    There are no homophobic laws in the US

                    You can keep telling that to yourself, it doesn't change the reality

                    Also US is objectively more dangerous than Canada for LGBTQIA+ people

                    • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
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                      1 year ago

                      I mean you can keep making up that the gay panic defense is a law but it won't change reality.

                      Also US is objectively more dangerous than Canada for LGBTQIA+ people

                      But for some reason no one can tell me how. All they can do is attack and insult.