im not going to sit here and shit on china but i will tell you that there is basically no path to citizenship there and that means you will not be able to do a TON of shit, like you will be extremely hamstrung trying to live there as a non-citizen full-on expat
and i know i know you can link me to their webpages on how to become a citizen and so on but trust me, they aint going to approve little people like us. basically nobody becomes a citizen of china without some kind of very special circumstance (be super rich)
the short story is that a ton of shit in china is done through wechat and the services it connects and to have a proper account you need citizenship because you get a sort of social security number that gets linked to your account
this basically means you can order stuff online, pay at restaurants, order a cab and so forth. the stuff you can do with it is amazing and what you can do without it is diminishing. so without the ability to use this you are hamstrung. you also cannot open a bank account. you cannot buy a home. there is more but thats the basics of it. you can google expats who have lived in china for a time and most of them end up marrying a chinese spouse and then all this gets done under their spouse's name. thing is, even if you marry a chinese spouse, you will still never be granted citizenship. it just becomes easier to stay in china, like get approval
im not going to sit here and shit on china but i will tell you that there is basically no path to citizenship there and that means you will not be able to do a TON of shit, like you will be extremely hamstrung trying to live there as a non-citizen full-on expat
and i know i know you can link me to their webpages on how to become a citizen and so on but trust me, they aint going to approve little people like us. basically nobody becomes a citizen of china without some kind of very special circumstance (be super rich)
In what way would a non-citizen be hamstrung?
the short story is that a ton of shit in china is done through wechat and the services it connects and to have a proper account you need citizenship because you get a sort of social security number that gets linked to your account
this basically means you can order stuff online, pay at restaurants, order a cab and so forth. the stuff you can do with it is amazing and what you can do without it is diminishing. so without the ability to use this you are hamstrung. you also cannot open a bank account. you cannot buy a home. there is more but thats the basics of it. you can google expats who have lived in china for a time and most of them end up marrying a chinese spouse and then all this gets done under their spouse's name. thing is, even if you marry a chinese spouse, you will still never be granted citizenship. it just becomes easier to stay in china, like get approval
Interesting and disappointing but I'd probably still do it if not for my family situation
ive looked into this and given it some consideration
honestly a better leftist friendly country for expats is vietnam
Ah you know what, I bet you're right. I'd rather be a Chinese citizen but as an expat Vietnam is the way to go. My wife actually has family there....