Shouldn't you be jailing the poll workers for Truancy of Vote Results?
If I remember correctly, this is the part where we send in CIA-backed fash to shoot all of the senators and run the president out of the country
Biden's probably gonna win but, uhhhhhhhhhhh
it's the ideal scenario for right wing maniacs to go all out, if they're ever gonna do it they will do it now
if we are being honest the descent into chaos and balkanization of the usa would be a huge boon for the rest of the world
Probably, yeah, depending how the dying empire lashes out. I'm a big advocate for the very literal end of the US for exactly that reason and now is the perfect time for it to happen, with China absolutely whooping ass on the world stage. But there are still hundreds of millions of workers in this awful country who are going to suffer and that's some shit.
I do agree, though, and ultimately I've been feeling globally optimistic lately due to the US's decline and China's rise. I just wish it didn't mean such dark times for my community.
all of us in america are going to suffer if it continues on anyways so its objectively better to have the bandage ripped off at this point
True that. Fingers crossed this looks more like the dissolution of the USSR than actual Balkanization, but either way the sooner US is gone (or completely irrelevant, which I think is more likely) the better.
when the ussr collapsed 10 million died due to the collapse of services as they were privatized
Well I mean in terms of how the country falls apart (peacefully and bureaucratically instead of a huge civil war), not what happens afterwards. The USSR was good and the post-Soviet states are bad; the US is bad, but potentially some of the post-US states could be goodish (relatively).
im not going to sit here and shit on china but i will tell you that there is basically no path to citizenship there and that means you will not be able to do a TON of shit, like you will be extremely hamstrung trying to live there as a non-citizen full-on expat
and i know i know you can link me to their webpages on how to become a citizen and so on but trust me, they aint going to approve little people like us. basically nobody becomes a citizen of china without some kind of very special circumstance (be super rich)
the short story is that a ton of shit in china is done through wechat and the services it connects and to have a proper account you need citizenship because you get a sort of social security number that gets linked to your account
this basically means you can order stuff online, pay at restaurants, order a cab and so forth. the stuff you can do with it is amazing and what you can do without it is diminishing. so without the ability to use this you are hamstrung. you also cannot open a bank account. you cannot buy a home. there is more but thats the basics of it. you can google expats who have lived in china for a time and most of them end up marrying a chinese spouse and then all this gets done under their spouse's name. thing is, even if you marry a chinese spouse, you will still never be granted citizenship. it just becomes easier to stay in china, like get approval
Interesting and disappointing but I'd probably still do it if not for my family situation
ive looked into this and given it some consideration
honestly a better leftist friendly country for expats is vietnam
Ah you know what, I bet you're right. I'd rather be a Chinese citizen but as an expat Vietnam is the way to go. My wife actually has family there....
I don't think they need a lot of people with my skill set lol
What do you do? I'm a trained ESL teacher so I could go real easy but I got a wife and cats.
My wife says my one cat is cute enough to be a Chinese celebrity and she's probably right
Low voltage cabling work (network infrastructure, commercial A/V, CCTV etc). My job isn't unskilled but you can realistically train someone in like 2 years to have my skill set lol. I think the union does a 3 yr apprenticeship. Plus, everything would be in chinese. Like all software and electronic tools.
Well at least you got a union job! I'm stuck here without even that.
alternatively: lEarN MaNdArIn
I don't have a union job lol I was just giving a frame of reference for barriers to entry since I never did a formal training program :angery:
ah damn, well I suppose that's how things go in The Worst Country On Earth
Yeah. Like I make okay money, definitely enough to support a single adult but not enough to actually buy a house or retire. I honestly dream of moving to China. It's the only thing I'd give up weed for
oh damn I keep forgetting I wouldn't be able to get weed there
If I weren't planning to have a kid next year (because it's my belief we need more people to suffer through living in America) I'd go for 6-12 months at least.
I support the DPRK against imperialism but I do not think I would like to live there, especially compared to China
Love to rationalize away concerns about catastrophic suffering using a cliche.
you want me to go into a huge diatribe about all the suffering in america if it DOESNT dissolve because, buddy, i fucking will
There will be suffering if it does, and suffering if it doesn't, and anyone who tries to stumble through which one is worse with some half-assed analysis and arrives at a conclusion with certainty is not someone whose thoughts I care about.
Prolonging suffering is worse than the acts required to end it. There is a good Mark Twain quote in regards to this (referencing the French revolution):
“THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.”
You're doing the whole "reasoning via cliche" thing again. Twain's talking about a two specific reigns of terror and is able to judge between them in that specific case, but it's not valid to infer that can always be generalized, or that steps to end pronlonged suffering won't lead to prolonged worse suffering.
I look forward to the day when regime changes in the nations of Alabama and Mississippi are being sponsored by the United Latin American Socialist Republic.
Honestly, being in a state where "stop counting right now" results in a Biden victory makes it marginally more difficult to sell the fig leaf of legitimacy for anything Trump might try to pull. But this is all punditry, if the powers that be are in for it, it'll go through regardless of how naked the fraud is.
