And you, what's your operating system to code ? Me, I use Arch btw

      • mrkite@programming.dev
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        1 year ago

        Nah these days with wsl, I prefer windows over Mac. At least you get packages that have been updated in the past decade.

      • words_number@programming.dev
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        1 year ago

        I care about freedom. In that regard, mac is easily the worst of the three. Also, it kinda combines the downsides of both:

        1. Being proprietary crap that tries to force you into using it a specific way and does shit in the background nobody ever asked for
        2. Not being compatible with some proprietary soft- or hardware

        I hate windows with a passion but would take it anytime if mac would be the only other option.

        • GBU_28@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          Every windows machine a job has given me has been a hunk of garbage. At least Mac hardware has a floor of quality. Not perfect by any means, but at least the battery lasts and there's basic horsepower.

          Also every windows machine has been with a fossilized company that has tons of IT bloat with tons of spyware authentication shit on it. Hell I had to file (and fight for) wsl privileges on my current windows machine

          The Macs I've gotten have been brand new, straight from the manufacturer.

          I'm sure that's just luck of the draw but yeah fuck windows shops hah

          • words_number@programming.dev
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            1 year ago

            I'm not talking about companies that use windows vs companies that use mac but about the systems themselves. It's very possible that most companies that use macs are generally better equipped, treat their devices better, upgrade more often, etc.. But that's a correlation, not a causation. You are right about the quality baseline because apple forces them to buy very specific hardware. But if they'd instead spend the same money for a windows machine and set it up decently, I would prefer that by a lot. MacOS is just terrible. It's less keyboard friendly, always messy, forces users into a overpriced and shitty proprietary lock-in ecosystem, etc.

            I'm not sure how long I'll say that though since microsoft really manages to make windows so much worse with every version they release, it has also reached a barely usable state to be honest.

        • kaba0@programming.dev
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          1 year ago

          In what way does it limit your freedom? When I first tried OSX I was quite surprised at how customizable it actually is, contrary to all the talk I heard about it.

      • sederx@programming.dev
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        1 year ago

        i used to have this opinion, i dont after having to use a mac for a few months. id take windows+wsl any day.

      • huginn@feddit.it
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        1 year ago

        Being built on nix doesn't mean it's similar, just that they have some commands in common.

        I miss my Linux dev machine daily.

        • railsdev@programming.dev
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          1 year ago

          Completely agree, I didn’t mean to imply that macOS’ BSD foundation is exactly like Linux. It isn’t. I just think it happens to be much more similar to Linux than Windows.

          • huginn@feddit.it
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            1 year ago

            The windows experience has gotten a lot closer to Ubuntu than you'd expect, what with WSL. A developer can do most of the same things you'd do on Ubuntu on Windows now. The same cannot be said for Mac.