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There's not really any reason to install UOS over Deepin or Ubuntu + Deepin, Manjaro + Deepin, etc. I personally wouldn't recommend it since it requires either a UOS account to get root access or a workaround using a different live distro and, uh, fuck that. Linux as a walled garden, it's not good folks.
Yeah imagine them putting the effort into creating something actually unique and modern from the ground up that would work better than Windows or macOS, then having the government promote adoption of the OS. Google already has their Fuchsia operating system which is not based on Linux or anything like that and only has a POSIX API over their actual OS API.
yeah you probably shouldn't yourself, its the enterprise version of deepin. if you want to use it then use deepin, but mainly the point of this is that china is switching to linux and thats good for us linux users because that means that linux is going to begin to dominate more of the industry.
It also hopefully means more mainline drivers for more devices.
and anything not linux is going to be further marginalized.
It sucks. It's not good. It concentrates power more and more. Look at the way google has completely swallowed the browser market with chromium.
first of all, desktop linux is nowhere near the point where anything not linux will be marginalized. second of all we basically have that right now with windows but with windows you can make a spinoff with more security features or personalization or for a more specific purpose while still being able to use the software you want. Windows and MacOS are proprietary and locked down, and it you don't like it tough because what are you gonna do. If linux is the main operating system you get to choose what distro you want, what desktop environment you want (if you want one at all) if you want to be crazy secure you can use QubesOS, if you want something simple you can use Pop! OS, if you want something better for business you can use RHEL. Also linux isn't owned by one company, especially not an ad agency. Comparing linux as the #1 os to chromium being the #1 browser isn't really a fair comparison.
Linux as the main operating system is good for most people and for the ones that don't it's not like windows is going to be gone forever, it will probably never truely die.
DPRK has a the linux based https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Star_OS
Wikipedia is always a fun game of , is it a weird thing this country is doing OR is it imperialists putting a weird spin on something normal OR is it just a straight up lie? Like
There is a user group called "administrator" in the operating system. Users do not have root access by default, but are able to elevate their privileges to root by running a built-in utility called "rootsetting". However, provisions are made in kernel modules to deny even root users access to certain files, and extensive system integrity checks are done at boot time to ensure these files have not been modified.
That is how a lot of operating systems do things... okay.
The system also has hidden "anti-virus" software that is capable of removing censored files that are remotely stored by the North Korean secret service.
Does it? Or is it just normal anti-virus but managed by the government?
The operating system comes pre-installed with a number of applications that monitor its users - if a user tries to disable security functions, the operating system often restarts in continuous loops or destroys itself
your pc/mac/phone is 100000% monitoring you and a lot of machines will brick themselves if they detect tampering. Again, not abnormal. Not a fan obviously but like,,,, certainly not out of the ordinary.
In addition, a watermarking tool integrated into the system marks all media content with the hard drive's serial number, allowing the North Korean authorities to trace the spread of files.
This seems sus (to me as a commie), but you'd think the western media would be all for DRM, right? Are they suddenly pro-piracy when the DPRK is doing it?
but uh also the source for all this is just one for the whole paragraph, this sketchy as fuck looking page --> https://media.ccc.de/v/32c3-7174-lifting_the_fog_on_red_star_os#t=1336 (or source 14 if you want to click on it through wikipedia). I thought wikipedia had like, standards for what they could use as a source, like they require actual news articles, but for this, apparently some video on what looks to be a german website is fine though? I didn't watch the video, but certainly the intent of whatever software developed was not hardcoded into the OS and wouldn't count as actual reporting. But of course it's all skewed to be in the worst possible light even when it's just "having an antivirus".
But anyway it doesn't say the cost for 3.0 but the 2.0 cost was equivalent to like $30. That's with antivirus and a web browser. A Windows license is what, around $200 now? And you have to get a separate antivirus? Sounds p good tbh
like they require actual news articles, but for this, apparently some video on what looks to be a german website is fine though?
CCC is a left-ish hacktivist group. They're kinda radlib at times, but they're reliably pro piracy, pro privacy, pro whistleblowing and feature leftist activists in their conferences. I haven't seen the vid about Red Star, but there's at least a chance the speaker is much less biased than your average mainstream news outlet.
Their vids are often very dry and the speakers tend to be on the dorkier side, but they're a good source for OpSec and what the surveilance apparatus both public and private have been up to lately. Their vids all have English subs afaik, too, but i don't know how good the translations are.
Oh that's actually based, hell yeah. Still a weird for it to be the only source on wikipedia, i've seen wiki remove links to what to similar sites and say it doesn't hold up to their standards. To be clear, that's on wikipedia for being arbitrarily selective, not this group.
Maybe it's just a result of the interests of Wikipedia's dedicated userbase, or maybe it's just because it's harder to find relevant, informative RS, but I've found that articles on tech and especially FOSS-related topics have significantly more lax editorial standards.
There's still a chance the speaker is just a huge STEMlord, but it could also go along the lines of "so there's this backdoor and that tracking feature, but Western OS have these as well, it'll just be the CIA instead of the DPRK spying on you."
He was criticizing mindless consumerism in the aftermath of the 3080 launch. :)
also for a more recent update
https://www.techradar.com/news/china-to-ditch-all-windows-pcs-by-2022-could-this-be-linuxs-time-to-shine
It’s a government-sponsored version of Deepin (which is fundamentally Debian Stable) with a goal of running on a bunch of architectures, but primarily the Zhaoxin SOCs they’re going to start deploying as part of their indigenous tech initiative.
System On a Chip. An SOC puts a bunch of components like RAM, graphics, or storage controllers together on the same physical chip. Your traditional PC has those broken out into different physical pieces of silicon and plastic.
They’re common in mobile devices like your phone. The KX-6000 we’re talking about here is fairly common in Chinese laptops, iirc, and is basically on par with an older Core i5 for certain tasks.
i want china to take reactos and throw state resources at it to completely subvert microsoft
well I'd rather a government that can't actually do anything to me over a government that could easily arrest/kill me if they wanted to any day.
yeah none of us are really that important, but the point is that one government can act on it and the other cant so there isn't much of an equivalence. Also this post is about how the country with the biggest population in the world is about to switch its entire government and eventually citizens as well to linux, which is amazing for linux.
