If so, was it polled somewhere?

  • Estiar@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    It's the 1989 Tiemaman square Tank Man picture and Xi Jinping as Whinnie the Pooh, images commonly censored in China as one of them demonstrates clear oppression and the other discredits the CCP.

    • Venus [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Oppression is when you stand in the way of a tank and the tank stops for you, and then you climb on top of the tank and have a conversation with the guy in the tank, and then you walk off completely unharmed

      • Estiar@sh.itjust.works
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        1 year ago

        There's a lot more where that came from

        http://www.cnd.org/June4th/massacre.html

        https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/tiananmen-square-massacre

        Also you can find plenty on reddit by just searching "Tiananmen square"

        https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/11db77h/tiananmen_square_massacre_1989_bravely/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

        https://www.reddit.com/r/eyeblech/comments/q8savh/tiananmen_square_massacre_images/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

        https://www.reddit.com/r/eyeblech/comments/v5jbog/1989_tiananmen_square_massacre_protesting_for/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

        https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/v4ryjb/photo_of_the_aftermath_of_tiananmen_square/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

        Reporters were kept away by force and the CCP tried as hard as they could to hide all evidence. Crushed protestors were washed down drains with hoses, and many were whisked away to secret graves. Despite this, there is still significant photographic evidence

        (This was copy pasted from Reddit)

        • Venus [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          (This was copy pasted from Reddit)

          Sorry my dietician told me to stay away from reddit-logo

          • Estiar@sh.itjust.works
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            1 year ago

            The first two links have plenty on them though and aren't from Reddit and I can go to archive the rest for you

            • Venus [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              You believe ridiculous yeonmi-park-tier propaganda about hosing bodies down drains lmao, you have absolutely nothing to offer any discussion.

              • Estiar@sh.itjust.works
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                1 year ago

                I understand if you don't want to see. It's very disturbing stuff, and deeply offensive to those who love Xi Jinping thought.

                • PandaBearGreen [they/them]
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                  1 year ago

                  We've seen it and we've seen the alternative narrative. We tend to disagree with the US and their propaganda machine. Maybe you should question why you would believe them too? When has US propaganda lied?

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        • BeamBrain [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Crushed protestors were washed down drains with hoses

          Hey, did those protestors have bones? Were they wearing clothes? Do you have the first clue about how the human body and/or physics work?

        • RedDawn [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          There were actually numerous western reporters in the square and they all say nobody died there, some of them sent off diplomatic cables the same or the next day saying so, which were released by Wikileaks.

    • Bakzik [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Oh, so @CookieJarObserver is using the racist Whinnie the Pooh insult.

      hitler-detector

      As always. Scratch a liberal and a fascist/racist bleeds.

        • Bakzik [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          Things can undergo a transformation, just because the original usage might have been innocent. If something starts being used by white racists or western imperialists in a racist way, would ya look at that, it’s racist.

          Also, it’s covert racism. It gives people plausible deniability. Like you are doing now.

          And this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Peril

          • Estiar@sh.itjust.works
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            1 year ago

            You may be in different circles than me. In my circles, it is used to poke fun at Xi Jinping, not the Chinese people. It is a caricature, just as we draw caricature of our own politicians. Despite the CCP's attempts, Westerners distinguish between race and state. Xi Jinping is not China and China is not Xi Jinping.

            • Bakzik [he/him, comrade/them]
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              1 year ago

              There are lot's of ways to criticize a political figure or a government. But you choose the racist caricature.

              Back to point 2: it’s covert racism. It gives people plausible deniability.

              But, at the end of the day, westerners imperialists love their orientalism and their covert racism.

              • Estiar@sh.itjust.works
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                1 year ago

                You do realize the only reason why people keep sharing it is because of the Barbra Streisand effect. People loyal to Xi Jinping thought hate it, so people like me share it because it's funny to see their reaction

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                • HornyOnMain
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                  1 year ago

                  You do realize the only reason why people keep sharing racism is because of the Barbra Streisand effect. People loyal to Xi Jinping thought hate racism, so people like me share racism because it's funny to see their reaction

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                • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                  1 year ago

                  Godwin himself told people to stop invoking that shit because so many Nazis and racists try to use it as deflection.

        • ReadFanon [any, any]
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          1 year ago

          And you realise that watermelons originated in Africa, right?

          You realise that the origin of something doesn't determine the depictions of it supporting racist stereotypes, such as a vast array of disgustingly racist caricatures of black people eating watermelons isn't absolved by the fact that watermelons originated in Africa, right?

    • 420LetPobedy [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Have you ever seen the complete tank man video? he doesn't get run over, while in the authoritarian US state vehicles are often running into peaceful protestors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-W-7WPWfE4

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    • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      How dare those tanks not run over that man! Don't they understand that freedom is when you just plow into people like US security forces do.