Seriously, non vegans need to shut the feck up unless they're willing to make the effort to stop hurting animals. Otherwise I'm not interested in their opinions.
I know I'm going to piss off every single group with this unpopular opinion, but I view veganism/vegetarianism and religion similarly.
Both of them come with benefits and downsides. The extent of these benefits and downsides differ from person to person. There's no "right" answer, talking about your choice is perfectly fine and I don't really care what you do either way, but I don't like it when you try too hard to convert me.
That's where you're wrong kiddo. Murdering innocents who are just trying to live their lives for no reason other than your pleasure is actually wrong and makes you evil.
If your belief is that people shouldn't try so hard to convince people of their beliefs, then why are you trying to spread that belief to others instead of just keeping it to yourself?
People that want to convert you to their religion are usually concerned about YOU (saving your soul, etc.), so it's reasonable that it's YOUR choice to decline. The only concern is about your own well being.
People that want to convert you to veganism, on the other hand, are only concerned about the animals you're exploiting - it has nothing to do with you personally. Your choice to decline means you're condemning hundreds of animals to die every year for the rest of your life. This is a hard pill to swallow for animal sympathizers, so you must understand why arguments by vegans tend to be quite passionate.
But the two really aren't similar, other than the fact that they both make you uncomfortable.
Do you hold any strong ethical beliefs at all? Would you also say they are religious? Would you also say that it is up to each individual to decide what is right for them and we should respect that and not push too hard?
ITT: A bunch of non-vegans complaining that content posted to a vegan community makes them uncomfortable.
Also ITT: A bunch of people who haven't been convinced to go vegan asserting how to convince people to go vegan. Not them, but other people of course.
Seriously, non vegans need to shut the feck up unless they're willing to make the effort to stop hurting animals. Otherwise I'm not interested in their opinions.
For the second group, I always like to ask "Why should I use your argument to convince people when it didn't convince you?"
I know I'm going to piss off every single group with this unpopular opinion, but I view veganism/vegetarianism and religion similarly.
Both of them come with benefits and downsides. The extent of these benefits and downsides differ from person to person. There's no "right" answer, talking about your choice is perfectly fine and I don't really care what you do either way, but I don't like it when you try too hard to convert me.
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That's where you're wrong kiddo. Murdering innocents who are just trying to live their lives for no reason other than your pleasure is actually wrong and makes you evil.
when your understanding of philosophy is so poor that you can't conceive of secular ethics
If your belief is that people shouldn't try so hard to convince people of their beliefs, then why are you trying to spread that belief to others instead of just keeping it to yourself?
I'm saying that's what I believe in, I didn't say you have to agree.
Cool, I don't agree.
People that want to convert you to their religion are usually concerned about YOU (saving your soul, etc.), so it's reasonable that it's YOUR choice to decline. The only concern is about your own well being.
People that want to convert you to veganism, on the other hand, are only concerned about the animals you're exploiting - it has nothing to do with you personally. Your choice to decline means you're condemning hundreds of animals to die every year for the rest of your life. This is a hard pill to swallow for animal sympathizers, so you must understand why arguments by vegans tend to be quite passionate.
But the two really aren't similar, other than the fact that they both make you uncomfortable.
Do you hold any strong ethical beliefs at all? Would you also say they are religious? Would you also say that it is up to each individual to decide what is right for them and we should respect that and not push too hard?