Is a coup still ‘electoralism’?

  • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    You don't actually need to go to war to feed the beast, just beat the drums at paper tigers and spend trillions on broken weapons systems. Biden is continuing that proud tradition of "everyone who isn't white is our mortal enemy, ready to pounce at any second". Trump did too, but he wasn't as convincing about it. He's not saying these things because he believes then, he's saying then because the MIC knows that this means their profits are safe under Biden.

    There will be bloodshed, probably a proxy war (revival of funding to Turkic Nationals maybe?, Definite continuation of whatever projects were happening under Trump), And the war profiteering will cause countless deaths in America from the austerity that funds it.

    Healthcare pls.

    • OhWell [he/him]
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      Trump did too, but he wasn’t as convincing about it. He’s not saying these things because he believes then, he’s saying then because the MIC knows that this means their profits are safe under Biden.

      What makes you think the military industrial complex is some hivemind with the president at the center? It's not a hivemind. It's a handful of capitalists, all with their own interests spread out across the globe. I mean, we literally got a full example of this with Elon Musk of all people being involved in Bolivia.

      It's not 2004 anymore. There is no full on; boots on the ground, waving American flags with the war machine when coups happen. And what you describe with military profits happens even without war. Our budget is so inflated and a fair share of that is not even going to the military, it's going to the private corporations and private sector which is controlled by these capitalists.

      Go back and read about Obama's foreign policy errors that I highlighted and do some digging there on articles from 2014 and 2015. War in Syria didn't go so well for them and they put a lot of effort into that. Obama also screwed up with Ukraine and the Crimea, when he had he biggest neolibs and neocons SCREAMING for war over that.

      This shit isn't as simple as most of you think. War has changed a lot since 2004, and the US has been getting their asses kicked in Afghanistan and Iraq since Obama's second term. The Taliban have practically taken over Afghanistan to the point that they can push the US out in the near future. I know some armchair leftist genius is going to respond to this with "that's not true! Biden can just put more troops on the ground and turn the tide!' but that's not how war works. They tried that in Obama's second term and it backfired and will backfire again.

      There will be bloodshed, probably a proxy war (revival of funding to Turkic Nationals maybe?, Definite continuation of whatever projects were happening under Trump), And the war profiteering will cause countless deaths in America from the austerity that funds it.

      The austerity that is going to come here in the US will be to raise police budgets and the national guard. The military budget is already inflated through the roof and they have that covered. The war on terror is coming home. Few of you seem to realize this with how the state is preparing for all our war with the protest movement in the street. We'll see a bipartisanship effort early on next year to pass some law furthering military police to suppress protests. The word we keep hearing is that the federal government is broke and that austerity is going to fund all this shit for them to make life hell for us.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I am in total agreement, we're heading towards a massive domestic conflict. A heightening of class warfare and subsequent violent crackdown by the imperial bourgeoisie.

        They're failing miserably to succeed in projecting power in the colonial territories so that industry has to go somewhere, and the police are absolutely going to be getting a massive windfall over the next decade or so.