• HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club
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    1 year ago

    Fascism isn't just capital abandoning liberalism, but free market capitalism as well.

    The fascist state will destroy capitalist enterprises in the name of the state; a lot of Nazi's initial expansion was caused by Nazis destroying Jewish capitalist businesses.

    If the state is picking the winners of capitalism, it isn't just capitalism.

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      This isnt accurate.

      All capitalist governments "pick winners" within their systems to some degree. That just isn't an important or relevant issue.

      Jewish businesses and their wealth were targeted, but that wasn't an attack on capitalism and markets - it was a genocide!

      • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club
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        1 year ago

        Capitalist governments might pick winners, but it is general in the context of those enterprises providing support for their other enterprises.

        And it wasn't a genocide yet when a Jewish owned business got turned over to an Aryan. This was a fascist government choosing winners and losers. Those winners would choose to support the Nazis.

        • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          You're wrong. I'm not going to elaborate any further because i feel you have taken the discussion to gross and unconscionable place.

          You seem to care more about the violation of "free markets" that don't and have never existed, than the pointless eradication of millions of human lives.

          • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club
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            1 year ago

            I don't care about free markets. I'm just noting that tyranny and oppression come from more than just free markets. In some cases, tyranny via fascism comes from a promise to put free markets under state control.

            • RuthlessCriticism [comrade/them]
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              1 year ago

              That is just wildly incorrect. Fascism does not make the promise to put free markets under state control, more importantly, none of the fascist societies put free markets under state control.

              • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club
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                1 year ago

                Fascism does not make the promise to put free markets under state control

                It does when the politics of the situation suits it. This is how Mussolini made the trains run on time. And as I said before, the Nazis exerted state control over local businesses by taking away some businesses from Jews and giving them to loyal Aryans. State control over the economy is exerted, just not to the benefit of everyone.

    • RedDawn [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Not true, fascism does not abandon markets or capitalism, it destroys all opposition to those things. Crush labor movement, kill and imprison communists, violently impose capitalism and markets on people who don’t want it by force.