Greetings gamers and those who wisely abstain,

It has become clear to us that even in the short while we’ve federated, the situation with sh.itholefor.nazis is entirely untenable and we will be defederating immediately. Multiple instances of ableist and homophobic slurs directed at our users, overwhelming litigiousness against even the most innocuous comments by our users, and just a general ethos of reactionary behavior. We’re done and out.

One of the concerns with embracing TC69 thought on site bans with federation is that the user would basically be just hexbear-side hidden and blocked from our comms, free to post reactionary content without the fear of Lenin behind them. That was a silly concern. We will resume our pre-federation policies regarding site bans.

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  • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    I don't disagree with the idea, but having seen some of the vile DM's our users have been receiving, protecting this space for marginalized comrades was the right call.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      I and others received those DMs from Lemm.ee users too. Real nasty stuff, but it died off. In part I think because @sunaurus@lemm.ee was happy to permaban people for sending such PMs. As long as the SJW admins were doing that I would expect it to die down after some time cleaning house. The benefit here is that our presence in federation would also get the people behaving this way permabanned and act as a suppressing effect for that kind of behaviour - positively improving SJW. Assuming they actually take the action on it like Sun did/does.

      If however they weren't taking those actions then the whole post and reason for defederation would be different in my mind, because it wouldn't just be about bad users it would be about bad administration protecting that behaviour and by extension fostering it (the same issue as blahaj).

      • TomboyShulk [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        Mods were blanket-removing Hexbear posts/comments, even innocuous ones. Signal enough they were unwilling to cooperate shrug-outta-hecks

      • artificialset [she/her, fae/faer]
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        1 year ago

        The benefit here is that our presence in federation would also get the people behaving this way permabanned and act as a suppressing effect for that kind of behaviour - positively improving SJW

        let's be clear that this would be at the expense of trans comrades who may not be in the headspace to deal with harassment like this. if we're truly a place that values our queer comrades, this is 100% at odds with that