I agree. I'm just talking about how Social Democrats at least on paper recognize some of the problems of capitalism. They just downplay them, which is a step above standard neoliberals. They just don't follow it to the logical conclusion. I would consider Demsocs to be a bit better than SocDems, but in my opinion the difference between SocDems and socialists should be or seems to be a bigger relative jump than between DemSocs and socialists. Maybe I'm phrasing this wrong.
Because with Democratic Socialism, you already have a foot in the door, and with SocDems, its a way bigger jump.
Imperialist socdems like sanders want to fund US social services off the backs of workers in the global south (via a tax on imports from commodities produced by workers making pennies, if you're wondering how this functions).
This is why he and AOC have voted in support of every US war, and why when it comes to foreign policy, they're indistinguishable from neocons and other liberals.
Socdems like yourself just want to uphold the status quo of imperialist wealth extraction, just with a little more of that stolen wealth allocated to social services.
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You're a fan of when there's a lot of hype but then nothing gets done and liberals take power anyway?
So, support for Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, which always seem to be the result Bernie gets? That "democratic socialism"?
Or the one where you do imperialism abroad to pay for healthcare and schools at home?
They barely have either of those things though, i wonder where that cash goes... oh yes, bombing Yugoslavia. That "democratic socialism" too.
Just the imperialism, then. Imperialiberalism.
Their evil regime versus our wholesome owned by 15 companies democratic system 🥰
Western Doublespeak™ ladies and gentlemen
Common misconception. Do you think the US is less authoritarian than China or Russia? The correct answer should be no.
Must be a big fan of Sanders’ hand in the NATO destruction of Yugoslavia then I guess ?
Sanders is a capitalist
Bernie is a socdem at best, not a demsoc
I consider socdems to be barely better than liberals.
Socdems ARE liberals, what they advocate for is not socialism, but "Welfare Capitalism"
I agree. I'm just talking about how Social Democrats at least on paper recognize some of the problems of capitalism. They just downplay them, which is a step above standard neoliberals. They just don't follow it to the logical conclusion. I would consider Demsocs to be a bit better than SocDems, but in my opinion the difference between SocDems and socialists should be or seems to be a bigger relative jump than between DemSocs and socialists. Maybe I'm phrasing this wrong.
Because with Democratic Socialism, you already have a foot in the door, and with SocDems, its a way bigger jump.
Imperialist socdems like sanders want to fund US social services off the backs of workers in the global south (via a tax on imports from commodities produced by workers making pennies, if you're wondering how this functions).
This is why he and AOC have voted in support of every US war, and why when it comes to foreign policy, they're indistinguishable from neocons and other liberals.
Socdems like yourself just want to uphold the status quo of imperialist wealth extraction, just with a little more of that stolen wealth allocated to social services.
Edit: of course Bernard doesn't even advocate socialism