yeah they just spent the past 8 years goading Russia into a war and have admitted to it for no reason at all, absolutely no interest there, these are just things that randomly happen sometimes.
Everything that happens is either a result of evil baddies being evil baddies and doing things because they are evil baddies, or they're just a whoopsy-daisy accident that happen for no reason and no one planned or expected them to happen (when a member of the good guy team does anything.)
Mate, Germany is in nato, the UK is in nato, Poland is in nato, now Finland is in nato, all of these bastards have invaded Russia in the past and have historically hated Russia and want it's land or resources. To claim anything else either shows complete disregard for history or willful ignorance.
But they were not simply joining NATO, were they? They are holding NATO troops and stockpiling NATO equipment and learning NATO tactics and -
sounds like preparing for war to me, especially when Russia has started the process to join NATO and has been dismissed every time, starting all the way back with the Soviet Union when NATO was first created. Not so much a defensive alliance if the USSR couldn't be a part of it from the start, is it?
By the way did you know NATO was created to fight the USSR in Europe? When that never came (because the USSR never cared to invade Europe, they literally had no plans for it), NATO instead turned to Operation Gladio, which is an umbrella term to categorize the literally hundreds of operations NATO-funded neo-nazis in Europe committed? It was especially violent in Italy, but they were not the only affected country. They hoped that by doing this they could -- and this is where history repeats itself -- get the Soviet Union to intervene in Europe, giving NATO casus belli for war.
and so what if nato expands? none of them have an interest in invading russia.
yeah they just spent the past 8 years goading Russia into a war and have admitted to it for no reason at all, absolutely no interest there, these are just things that randomly happen sometimes.
Everything that happens is either a result of evil baddies being evil baddies and doing things because they are evil baddies, or they're just a whoopsy-daisy accident that happen for no reason and no one planned or expected them to happen (when a member of the good guy team does anything.)
If my neighbours were surrounding me, digging up trenches and setting up gun nests, I'd want them to stop expanding too.
If NATO isn't an offensive alliance meant to contain Russia, why did they refuse Russia's entry in early 2000s, when there was no anti-west posture?
wrong analogy. a country simply joining nato does not mean it's actively preparing for war.
did it? it is an anti-russia organization, but a defensive one. no nato country invaded russia. russia chose to invade ukraine.
Mate, Germany is in nato, the UK is in nato, Poland is in nato, now Finland is in nato, all of these bastards have invaded Russia in the past and have historically hated Russia and want it's land or resources. To claim anything else either shows complete disregard for history or willful ignorance.
Soon Japan will be in NATO too XD
You forgot about the US and France. They both invaded Russia during the revolution.
But they were not simply joining NATO, were they? They are holding NATO troops and stockpiling NATO equipment and learning NATO tactics and -
sounds like preparing for war to me, especially when Russia has started the process to join NATO and has been dismissed every time, starting all the way back with the Soviet Union when NATO was first created. Not so much a defensive alliance if the USSR couldn't be a part of it from the start, is it?
By the way did you know NATO was created to fight the USSR in Europe? When that never came (because the USSR never cared to invade Europe, they literally had no plans for it), NATO instead turned to Operation Gladio, which is an umbrella term to categorize the literally hundreds of operations NATO-funded neo-nazis in Europe committed? It was especially violent in Italy, but they were not the only affected country. They hoped that by doing this they could -- and this is where history repeats itself -- get the Soviet Union to intervene in Europe, giving NATO casus belli for war.
Did you know the first NATO generals were nazis?