I have a lot of very left-leaning friends (although most of them are still liberals, which I am not of course pls believe me) and they're all heavily anti-China.

Occasionally I push back on this and they always bring up the Uyghur "genocide". As a German person, I feel insanely uncomfortable claiming that there is not actually a genocide happening. And like, as a matter of fact, I don't know what the truth, but at the same time I don't feel comfortable just letting US propaganda go uncontested.

I am compiling my own list of sources but I would greatly appreciate help on this, please give me the clearest sources and arguments you have, because this is an important topic to me.

Just saying "RFA and Adrian Zenz bad" isn't very convincing, not even to myself, the best I have is the letter by the Muslim nations.

  • EldritchMayo [he/him,comrade/them]
    1·
    4 years ago

    Couple of points you can bring up.

    • American media has lied numerous times about terrorism, wmds, etc and such to sponsor invasions. Iraq, Egypt, whatever. You should point out that assuming the media is completely truthful is a bit worrying considering the next few points.

    • The Islamic Turkistan terrorist org (don’t remember exact name off the top of my head) were taken off the American terrorist list by Mike Pompeo in October. Every other nation, INCLUDING the western ones, have had it there since 9/11. This is extremely suspect considering firstly how America of all places is suddenly unconcerned about Islamic terrorism, given their track record, especially under trump. So trump doing this is sketchy. And secondly, it is also a tip off that America is planning something- they have funded terrorist orgs to destabilize communism so many times in the past, such as Bin laden and the Taliban. So to just overlook the sketchy stuff america is doing is blatantly ignoring the past.

    • Xinjiang is rich in oil. You can look it up and a dozen articles will prove this.

    All of these points combined with the other video should paint you a pretty clear idea. China is definitely in the wrong to inter people in xinjiang. But the circumstances are clearly being exaggerated and putting the pieces together, it looks like America is set to do the same damn thing they’ve always done.

    • KamalaHarrisPOTUS [he/him]
      1·
      4 years ago

      Islamic Turkistan terrorist org (don’t remember exact name off the top of my head)

      ETIM East Tkstan islmaic movement

      • cum_drinker69 [any]
        1·
        4 years ago

        I was reading their wikipedia page and came across this amazing passage (emphasis mine):

        The United States captured 22 Uyghur militants from combat zones in Afghanistan in 2006 on information that they were linked to Al-Qaeda. They were imprisoned without trial for five to seven years, where they testified that they were trained by ETIM leader Abdul Haq, at an ETIM training camp. After being found No Longer Enemy Combatant, i.e. never having been enemy combatants, a panel of judges ordered them released into the United States. Despite the alarm of politicians that the release of embittered former Guantanamo detainees into the United States was unsafe and illegal, they could not be released back to China because of its human rights record.

        Sometimes I struggle to find words for how absurd and insidious western propaganda is and this is one of those times.