皆さん、
ようこそ、これはチャポでの初めての日本語の練習スレ。
このスレ内に何でものことについてを喋ってください。
遠慮失いで！ ٩(๑òωó๑)۶
日本語を話しできないでば、それは結構です。英語で、「日本語で○○をどう言ってますか」とか問い掛けます。
では、始めましょうか？
English: Everyone,
Welcome to the first Chapo Japanese practice thread.
Don't hold back, talk about anything you want.
It's fine if you don't speak Japanese, just ask stuff in English, like "How do I say XX in Japanese?"
Then, shall we get started?
For the reading group: 銀河鉄道の夜 (Libgen - Night on the Galactic Railroad - Japanese / English Dual Text)
Im very early on in my studying, does anyone have any good resources for beginners? Ive got the basics down but its hard to progress much w/o anything to act as a guide because of how my dumbass brain works. Thank you in advance
I personally recommended anyone who's just starting out or are struggling with grammar to go watch this series on youtube (the voice and the avatar take a bit to get used to). She explain the idea behind the grammar as a consistent, logical thing and not just some collection of random rules and exceptions like in the textbook.
She also has done a lot of videos on how to study Japanese which I recommend watching. The gist of it involve creating for yourself only one core Anki deck, filled with the only most common words that can be used anywhere (because each type of media you consume have it own set of core vocab and it's impossible to have a core vocab that encompass them all) . Then you watch anime with J-sub, pausing each line to translate what being said, adding new words to your Anki deck as you do. After finishing each episode, you cut out the audio file and play it in the background whenever you can. Checkout this series for more details and explanation and the methods to do it .
After studying both Genki and Tae Kim and Heisig, I can say that for me her way of teaching is the best. I'm not even at intermediate level yet though so take this with a pinch of salt and try it out yourself to see if it suit you.
IMO Heisig is a massive trap. Learning shapes and vague definitions out of any sort of logical order, and without the readings of Kanji is pointless to the extreme.
I know too many people who brag about knowing a thousand Kanji but are completely foiled if you ask them to read a basic greeting out loud.
oh!! Ill have to watch that bit by bit when i have the time, it sounds promising. thank you!
Yeah, I'll be making a Beginner's how-to for learning Japanese.
Spaced repetition tools are your friend here - Personally, I got my start with the Genki Anki deck, which I'd say in combination with skimming the book is enough to get you to the point where you can really start getting into learning from media.
What sorts of studying have you done so far?
Genki Books / Audio Files:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2xTLCjxLYMgSEJ3S3BCRzhfY1E/view?usp=sharing
Anki Download:
https://apps.ankiweb.net/
Anki-Web (to share progress between devices):
https://ankiweb.net/account/register
Hiragana:
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/2183294427
Katakana:
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/779415544
Genki Vocab Deck:
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/942922371
KanjiDamage deck:
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/748570187
www.KanjiDamage.com
I've been trying to familiarize myself with hiragana and katakana (along w/ some more common kanji), I'm at a point where I can read simple sentences at the very least, though with a good bit of difficulty. thats mostly a memorization problem though, I think. Really makes language learning difficult for me-
Most of my studying has been me just... brute forcing it tbh??? its a horrible way to learn, but without any proper means it was my best bet
This helps a lot though, thank you again!!
Yeah, Anki will be right up your ally, especially with really learning hiragana and katakana. Practice just consistently recognizing characters at first, then be sure to practice physically writing the characters - took me a while to realize, but they are two different things. Anyways, writing will help you re-enforce your recognition.
ah! yeah thatd probably be best. realized just now that i dont really know how to properly write some characters because of how often i just type em out lmao, totally gonna need to work on that thank you for the advice!