欢迎大家来到咱们的第一个关于学习汉语的帖子。
我来介绍一下自己：我是一位中华人民共和国政府的奖学金获得者，现在我在一所中国大学读本科。我希望我帮你们提高你们的汉语水平！
在这个帖子你们都可以练习汉语，学习汉语，问关于汉语或者中国的问题，还分享内容。当然你们也可以教别人！所有的关于学习汉语或者中国事情都很受欢迎。
有用的学习资源：
对练习汉语有用的频道：
关于中国的频道：
来好好学习！
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Welcome everyone to our first Chinese language learning thread.
Let me introduce myself: I'm a recipient of the Chinese government scholarship, currently studying in a Chinese university. I hope I can help you all improve your Chinese!
In this thread you can practice, study, and ask questions about Chinese or China. Of course, you can also teach others! Anything related to learning Chinese is welcomed.
Useful learning resources:
Useful channels to practice Chinese:
Channels about China:
Let's study hard!
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| Feel free to suggest more channels and learning resources |
🛑 Don't be shy to practice and write in Chinese even if you are not that good at it, this thread and community is here just for that. Chapos will help you improve! 🛑
In my ears the difference is really clear, but don't worry, it's actually normal for beginners to not be able to distinguish the differences between some phonemes. I have passed the HSK6 exam and I'm currently study a degree in a Chinese university, and I still find hard to tell the difference between zu and cu. My best advice is: relax, hear a lot of Chinese, and give it time. Learning is a process, you will get there, but don't stop practicing, and most importantly, don't stop hearing Chinese.
Edit: I also recommend you to try practicing with the same phonemes 笑(xiao) 绍(shao) but in a different tone (in this case 4); try to see if you can hear the difference.
When does somewhat passively listening become understanding sentence structure (at least)? 😅
My method so far has been a mix of HelloChinese, Anki, and trying to listen and look at subtitles while watching CCTV live or various Chinese YT videos. I'm not sure if I should work on character recognition more so I can read stuff or work on character + spoken to get to understanding videos sooner.
Being honest, unless you have already achieved a HSK4/5 level, passive listening won't do much, especially when it comes to grammar structures. Chinese is very logical, and it might look fairly simple at the beginning, but things get tricky as you progress. Some structures such as 一…就 (example: 她一回家就回答我), are completely not intuitive and need to be learnt.
I do recommend, however, that you hear the sounds of Chinese syllables. First you should start with 声母 (initials of syllables), 韵母 (finals of syllables), and then the whole syllable (the combination of both). If you are wondering how Chinese learn the language when they are young, this is the method they use. I was taught with this method as well.
Here is a video for Chinese kids to learn what I mentioned above. It will be useful in your case too: https://youtu.be/JMY023Ofa6w
When watching that video pay attention to the sounds and imitate those girls. 声母 and 韵母 are pretty much the ABCs for Chinese kids.
I know it's sounds boring af (it is), but I honestly defend that in order to have a good Chinese level, you need a good base, otherwise you will probably end up reaching a "glass celling". Before I got taught by the teachers the Chinese government assigned me, I went to different academies and studied Chinese by my own. The best method by far was the one my teachers from the government used, the same one I'm recommending to you.
Once you have finished with 声母 and 韵母, you should begin to study for the HSK1 exam, I recommend you the book: HSK Standard Course 1. This doesn't mean you have to worry about the exam or even take it, that book – and the HSK exams in general – will just provide you with a template and a direction for you to focus your studies. You can buy the book or pirate it, it's really easy to find.
I also recommend you this video series for grammar, examples, more in-depth explanations, and practicing you hearing with basic HSK1 vocabulary: https://youtu.be/kNQIikbL2ck
Chinese is a language that you must approach from all directions, but I think it's better that at the beginning you focus on character recognition, reading, grammar, and finally some basic listening (HSK1 audios). Without the guidance of a native, I don't recommend you to practice speaking, but you should still train your tones from time to time.
祝你好运，同志。好好学习，别放弃，汉语真的是一门美丽的语言。
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Also, you're whole post is awesome.