The facial expressions on this one are perfect lol. Good work!
As with all the memes I post, I cannot take credit for making them but I completely agree. The 'hurr durr' face that was chosen for Troi, as well as the 'Done with this shit' face, couldn't have been chosen better.
okay, one: vader? an empath? really?
two: even if he was how is empathic reading supposed to tell him she's his daughter? it's telempathy, not remote gene testing. it isn't like leia was feeling familial affection for the guy.
I like it when memes get defensive right in the meme itself. Really sets my phaser to kill, if you know what I mean.
As an Irish person, Troi doing this impression boiled my piss more than Up the Long Ladder
Up the Long Ladder is an episode in which they picked up some backwater folks with Irish accents, in which the hot Irish woman existed mainly to yell about how men are useless and then bang Riker after coyly attracting him by asking him to wash her feet. It is widely regarded as not a great episode, and the only way they could have stereotyped the Irish further would be if someone ran through each scene yelling about how they're always after his lucky charms.
Fan theory: Vader recovered just fine in a few days thanks to space aged technology, but used the event as a facade to wear his kink gear full time.
"uh sir? does it...absolutely have to be skintight leather?"
"yes. it also needs to be black."
So Vader is an all powerful empath who can sense all kinds of shit over lightyears but he can be immediately thwarted if someone lied to him 20 years ago?
Not the take you think it is. The fact there was zero hesitation means he's either an absolute idiot who doesn't acknowledge personal feelings/vibes/hunches (which doesn't match with anything we've ever seen from Anakin) or his powers to sense other peoples presence is greatly over exaggerated.
Here's my cool guess: Maybe he can sense her, but she was introduced to him as an important political figure first, which caused a blindspot in identifying any personal relevance she may have to him. Luke was sensed without any context because he was actively training?
Rogue One shatters that. At the end of the movie, we see Vader rip apart a bunch of rebels who are getting information to Leia. It ends minutes before A New Hope begins. Vader then shows up on Leias ship and immediately starts ripping into her. Whether Vader knew about her prior to this encounter, it shouldn't matter. She is now a known ally of the Rebellion. He's been known to squeeze information out of anyone with no hesitation, being able to sense their intent from miles away, but she completely bluffs him? This young woman who he knows is a rebel? He's the leader of the Inquisitors. His whole deal is finding people who are force sensitive and then either killing or turning them. He's been training people for years, able to sense levels of force sensitivity in them that the person isn't even aware of.
People complain about NuTrek breaking established canon but there's literally no example of it. Meanwhile Star Wars has written itself into such an extreme corner that their movies no longer make sense.
I think a better suggestion is that she was weakened by the stun blaster. Leia hadn't developed her force powers much at all at that point, so being in a weakened state could lead Vader to thinking nothing much of her. He would expect his child to be unusually powerful, of course.
I don't buy that. He's the leader of the Inquisitors. His whole thing is dealing with people who are force sensitive and either killing them or turning them. Also, thanks to George Lucas, there's another major sticking point. Midichlorians. Vader would have been able to sense them in her regardless of being stunned or even conscious.
Yeahhhhhh see there’s your problem. You’re taking Star Wars lore too literally. Don’t you know you can’t take every little thing Star Wars adds and assume its actually supposed to make any sense other than “this sounds cool”?
/s, but also not really
Oh I know. I just like pointing it out with Star Wars. In Trek you can find consistency but in Star Wars there's fucking none. It's the movie equivalent of kids playing with action figures and one-upping each other every 5 seconds with some new OP abilities.
People in general are really bad at reconsidering life-defining events under a different light, impulsive people most of all, so it's not out of character for Vader to ignore any instincts that tell him there's a connection between him and Leia.
I think 'foresaw his wife's pained death, choked her out in a fit of rage on a lava planet, lost consciousness, then woke up and immediately learned she had died (which was true by then)' is a bit more convincing evidence his kids didn't make it than 'someone lied to him'.
