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Ok, I get that the Democrats are disfunctional, ineffective, and unpopular in your area. What if people like yourself ran for office so that it could become more effective (even if just locally) and then maybe become more popular? This will never happen if all the good people forfeit the game.
but as of now they’re functionally Republicans who fund education in this state.
That alone would be enough to get me off my couch to vote D. Perfection is the enemy of progress.
Hope -- hope that others will do the same and work together to make a better future. The pantry will be there next weekend.
This is some Obama era shit. Hope isn't feeding people.
What if people like yourself ran for office so that it could become more effective (even if just locally) and then maybe become more popular?
I am finishing my PhD and getting the fuck out of this state. Once I have the means I will absolutely run for school board to keep a lib or a hog out of the spot and promote a Marxist indoctrination of our nation's youth.
That alone would be enough to get me off my couch to vote D.
Again, I'm not against voting for the lesser of two evils, but I am not going to spend my time advocating for an anti-choice, anti-trans, anti-gay hog. We have "progressives" who gain traction on a state wide basis and the Democratic party systematically kneecaps them every time because it is an old boys club.
Perfection is the enemy of progress.
I am not asking for perfection I am asking for the Democratic party to be a functional party, which it isn't despite having the governorship in my state.
Is that really how I'm using it? Am I asking anyone to shut up? No, you gave me a simple straw man argument and knocked it down.
No, I'm asking my comrades not be idiots that think we're really close enough to full on communist revolution that it's worth it to let fascists hurt people until we get there. Be realistic, if you really want to help people, pissing people off and letting fascists take power out of spite is not the way.
We all have a little bit of power to influence all kinds of stuff including US elections.. If our votes were not counted very rich people would not be wasting billions just to annoy people with too many political commercials.
The power (such as to end capitalism, not to control others) comes from influencing people and making more comrades which Hexbear is awful at.
We all have a little bit of power to influence all kinds of stuff including US elections
The outcome of most states (in fact most counties, most precincts) is already known and condidered locked. If you live in most of the country and your vote is counter to that, what power does your vote have?
If our votes were not counted very rich people would not be wasting billions just to annoy people with too many political commercials.
There's a lot of assumptions here. US presidential elections are multi billion dollar businesses. Political campaigns are a way for people to mske money. Rich people do waste billions on them. They are as grifted as anyone else, when it comes to this hollow polical system.
making more comrades which Hexbear is awful at
Seems to be a lot of comrades around here, and we've attracted a lot more since federation began. We're a non-sectarian space, but it is true that we aren't trying to be welcoming to s because they aren't comrades at all and will not be unless they abandon their liberalism
On Hexbear? I don't believe I have any methods to figure that out. I'd imagine not many, people don't like their ideology poked with sticks. I'm more hoping to get people to question their allegiance to super rich powerful men that lead states and tell their followers that supporting their power is what's best for everyone.
Votes are earned.
Ok, I get that the Democrats are disfunctional, ineffective, and unpopular in your area. What if people like yourself ran for office so that it could become more effective (even if just locally) and then maybe become more popular? This will never happen if all the good people forfeit the game.
That alone would be enough to get me off my couch to vote D. Perfection is the enemy of progress.
This is some Obama era shit. Hope isn't feeding people.
I am finishing my PhD and getting the fuck out of this state. Once I have the means I will absolutely run for school board to keep a lib or a hog out of the spot and promote a Marxist indoctrination of our nation's youth.
Again, I'm not against voting for the lesser of two evils, but I am not going to spend my time advocating for an anti-choice, anti-trans, anti-gay hog. We have "progressives" who gain traction on a state wide basis and the Democratic party systematically kneecaps them every time because it is an old boys club.
I am not asking for perfection I am asking for the Democratic party to be a functional party, which it isn't despite having the governorship in my state.
This phrase is the enemy of progress.
Its always used to argue for why we need to allow some lib bullshit, and shut up.
Is that really how I'm using it? Am I asking anyone to shut up? No, you gave me a simple straw man argument and knocked it down.
No, I'm asking my comrades not be idiots that think we're really close enough to full on communist revolution that it's worth it to let fascists hurt people until we get there. Be realistic, if you really want to help people, pissing people off and letting fascists take power out of spite is not the way.
Believing that the people on this site have the power to influence US elections is what's not realistic
We all have a little bit of power to influence all kinds of stuff including US elections.. If our votes were not counted very rich people would not be wasting billions just to annoy people with too many political commercials.
The power (such as to end capitalism, not to control others) comes from influencing people and making more comrades which Hexbear is awful at.
The outcome of most states (in fact most counties, most precincts) is already known and condidered locked. If you live in most of the country and your vote is counter to that, what power does your vote have?
There's a lot of assumptions here. US presidential elections are multi billion dollar businesses. Political campaigns are a way for people to mske money. Rich people do waste billions on them. They are as grifted as anyone else, when it comes to this hollow polical system.
Seems to be a lot of comrades around here, and we've attracted a lot more since federation began. We're a non-sectarian space, but it is true that we aren't trying to be welcoming to
s because they aren't comrades at all and will not be unless they abandon their liberalism
An insulting people is your method to get them to abandon liberalism? Doesn't seem very effective to me but if you say it's working, good for y'all.
How many comrades are you making right now?
On Hexbear? I don't believe I have any methods to figure that out. I'd imagine not many, people don't like their ideology poked with sticks. I'm more hoping to get people to question their allegiance to super rich powerful men that lead states and tell their followers that supporting their power is what's best for everyone.
And when the D's lose... because the D's lost enough times that the R's now run the state... what do you do then?