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          • AliceBToklas [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            lol if you had a replicator for bananas united fruit company would probably be working on murdering you.

          • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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            4 years ago

            Yeah, but you've now got something that you didn't pay for that you're supposed to pay for.

            I get that you haven't literally deprived them of anything (except a potential sale but that's dependent on whether you ever intended on buying it in the first place) but it's still kinda something you're not supposed to have but you do anyway.

            If someone charged money to use the replicator but you just got one from it without paying (assuming infinite bananas here) then you've still stolen something.

            Again, I've heard this before and I get the logic but it doesn't really track to me. I don't care, and it's about as victimless a crime as one can achieve but this always seemed like "uh actually..." trying to justify it rather than just owning it.

            I really just don't understand the end game of this argument at all.

              • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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                4 years ago

                Super libshit, like, lmao, how can you even call yourself a socialist while still thinking people deserve unlimited rent seeking entitlement for “intellectual property” that only even exists thanks to innumerable unpaid contributions from the work of others.

                Damn, that's crazy. Never said that though did I? I literally said it's fine to steal and that it's basically one of the most victimless crimes possible.

                You can say that owning land is bullshit because of whatever theory you've got to prove it but it's still trespassing if you're on there without permission from the owner. How does that work? How do you own earth, dipshit? No one even made it.

                Within our way of life, right now, you're supposed to pay for video games. Attaining them otherwise is something you're not supposed to do. If you got caught doing this you'd be punished "appropriately" depending on the magnitude of your "theft".

                Not saying that we shouldn't change that, but we're clearly talking about different frameworks. Pointless struggle session. It's like 0230 here and I'm a dumbass for not sleeping, gn babe 🥰

            • Mardoniush [she/her]
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              4 years ago

              If someone charged money to use the replicator but you just got one from it without paying (assuming infinite bananas here) then you’ve still stolen something.

              This is literally the definition of capitalism. If you believe that it is right to hold and rent capital than you are not a socialist.

              • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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                4 years ago

                I'm well aware. When did describing the system we currently live under suddenly become endorsement of said system?

    • ElGosso [he/him]
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      Even then you should just wait until like four years later for any AAA game, because at that point either the devs will have patched it or enterprising fans will have gotten mad enough to make a community fix.

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Bloodlines/KOTOR 2 syndrome. I think Cyberpunk's issues are deeper though. A massive heap of base game mechanics seem to have been stripped out and replaced by bare-bones systems a few months before launch, and the seams show masssively.

        Sure they could pull a No Mans Sky style overhaul of everything, but I don't think a game of this size can adapt to having entire game loops replaced like that.