That’s actually kind of what is happening in Twitter. Some people are still calling the Liberals communists, making reference to Castro being Trudeau’s “real” father, and others trying to make some weird ass connection between Nazism and Communism which is just embarrassing in general. I made sure to recheck some tweets and it looks like both the NDP and Bloc Québécois are calling for the speaker of the house, Anthony Rota, to resign as he was the one who actually invited the guy. There were many officials making half apologies but one of them stood out to me the most; I unfortunately cannot find the Twitter thread he made right now but he was a grey check mark and basically tried to make excuses for what had happened. He essentially said that the SS veteran was someone “resisting communism” and therefore was brought to the House of Commons to be celebrated, they didn’t realize that he was a literal Nazi. They hate Russians so much they’ll celebrate a literal Nazi because he killed them. Now both the Liberals and Conservatives (the parties and their followers) are pointing fingers trying to place blame on each other, and rather than realizing that every MP gave that man a standing ovation, conservatives are sharing gay Nazi memes (oxymoron? Yes, but they do it anyway because they’re stupid and homophobic) and still claim that this is somehow related to communism. I was scrolling twitter looking for the thread and I saw a loser by the name of LibertyJamison post a tweet that reads:
Message to Trudeau, Chrystia Freeland, and the WEF:
No one voted for you to be the little Marxist fella dictator of the world nor did they vote for global communism so eff off.
I hate it here.
Edit: The guy who was talking about resisting communism, in his thread he said he was worried that this event in parliament would fuel “Russian disinformation” which is ridiculous because is it disinformation if it true?
Hunka used to see the Holodomor bus everytime it came to town. I can't remember him saying anything explicit, but i bet the Ukrainian groups knew in town.
If one doesn't know high school-level history well enough that "this guy fought against Russia in WWII" doesn't set off a million alarm bells, they have no business being in government.
If their defense is "I was told to clap like a seal, I did, and it turns out I was applauding a Nazi," same thing.
In the state I teach in, our textbooks make communism out as the greatest failure and evil in the world. A token "6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust" is given, but the history of most of the world goes into more detail about how many millions the alleged idiocy of Mao or the apparent power hungry brutality of Stalin caused. Which is really telling because they take every opportunity to mention when communism allegedly did something bad or failed in a region, but never go into as much depth or detail about any other similar events in history. It's only junior high level geography, but the main focus of all the world history seems to be on how bad socialism is. Every other economic system, war, and historical event is briefly covered in a whitewashed way, but socialism and communism are repeatedly paraded around as evil. This is all the world history they'll get until high school, which will likely have a similar focus.
I've noticed that from when I was in school to now, a decade later, that they've really pushed a "communists were the worse evil all along" narrative. My students, who know very little about the world, know to hate and fear Russia, China, and North Korea, but have never heard of fascism and barely know about Nazis except as edgy jokes.
Do you think it's a coincidence that most of the people who actually fought in WWII are now dead, unable to challenge their grandkids at the dinner table for coming out with nonsense takes? WWII isn't really in living memory anymore, except for people who were kids in it.
I have considered that's part of it, that the revisionism is related to it. Makes me wonder if we'll quit admitting the Vietnam War was a bad thing as soon as that exits living memory... kinda scary to know when I'm dead, the bad shit we did will be erased from history books to trick future generations.
A country that gladly accepted Nazis is clearly one where the rulers weren't particularly concerned about it - these are their kids and grandkids, still supporting Nazis, and still because of anticommunist thinking. This is the same country that continues to occupy land stolen from the indigenous and constantly fails to reckon with even acknowledging it, let alone stop steamrolling indigenous land, let alone implement restorative justice.
Russia bad is part of that anticommunist legacy. Look how little effort it took to dehumanize Russians from the Anglo perspective, look how they continue to rely on the same trope of the Asiatic hordes that will conquer everything in their path - if we let them.
"i mean he was a literal fucking nazi soldier, but the government of canada couldn't possibly know the history of someone they invite to their own parliament building"
One would expect the entire governing body of a country (minus apparently two people) to have a tiny bit more understanding of politics and history given that it is literally their job to know such things.
One would be very disappointed in the result if that was their expectation, but it would be a reasonable expectation.
Context?
Edit: Found some context: https://youtu.be/evPOfeNo-wY?si=wmvyZyFCcSGa9OHa
Justin got a Nazi granddaddy in his parliament to honor Zelensky hard .
oof, I just saw the video. Jesus Christ. Embarrassing. "Fought against the Russians in WW2" . . . Parliament forgot about history, apparently.
They know and they love it. They allowed these Nazis to come into Canada to crush commies in 1950s
“But I thought Trudeau was a commie” - some reactionary probably
That’s actually kind of what is happening in Twitter. Some people are still calling the Liberals communists, making reference to Castro being Trudeau’s “real” father, and others trying to make some weird ass connection between Nazism and Communism which is just embarrassing in general. I made sure to recheck some tweets and it looks like both the NDP and Bloc Québécois are calling for the speaker of the house, Anthony Rota, to resign as he was the one who actually invited the guy. There were many officials making half apologies but one of them stood out to me the most; I unfortunately cannot find the Twitter thread he made right now but he was a grey check mark and basically tried to make excuses for what had happened. He essentially said that the SS veteran was someone “resisting communism” and therefore was brought to the House of Commons to be celebrated, they didn’t realize that he was a literal Nazi. They hate Russians so much they’ll celebrate a literal Nazi because he killed them. Now both the Liberals and Conservatives (the parties and their followers) are pointing fingers trying to place blame on each other, and rather than realizing that every MP gave that man a standing ovation, conservatives are sharing gay Nazi memes (oxymoron? Yes, but they do it anyway because they’re stupid and homophobic) and still claim that this is somehow related to communism. I was scrolling twitter looking for the thread and I saw a loser by the name of LibertyJamison post a tweet that reads:
I hate it here.
Edit: The guy who was talking about resisting communism, in his thread he said he was worried that this event in parliament would fuel “Russian disinformation” which is ridiculous because is it disinformation if it true?
On the flipside, I make gags about Castro being JT's real dad because it's extremely funny to call him the Final Boss of Failsons.
Your father would be so disappointed in you, Juice.
Even if it was true it’d be so embarrassing because imagine trashing your father’s legacy so badly 😩
IIRC Buttigieg and Obama both were raised by Marxists.
What a shame.
Really??? What a disappointment…
Hunka used to see the Holodomor bus everytime it came to town. I can't remember him saying anything explicit, but i bet the Ukrainian groups knew in town.
Settle down. This is clearly an example of short sightedness / ignorance and politics. "Russia bad. Man fought Russia long ago. Stand and seal clap"
If one doesn't know high school-level history well enough that "this guy fought against Russia in WWII" doesn't set off a million alarm bells, they have no business being in government.
If their defense is "I was told to clap like a seal, I did, and it turns out I was applauding a Nazi," same thing.
I feel ya. I'd love to be a fly on the wall of their inner thought bubbles lol
How many were standing while clapping and thought ". . . wait . . ."
In the state I teach in, our textbooks make communism out as the greatest failure and evil in the world. A token "6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust" is given, but the history of most of the world goes into more detail about how many millions the alleged idiocy of Mao or the apparent power hungry brutality of Stalin caused. Which is really telling because they take every opportunity to mention when communism allegedly did something bad or failed in a region, but never go into as much depth or detail about any other similar events in history. It's only junior high level geography, but the main focus of all the world history seems to be on how bad socialism is. Every other economic system, war, and historical event is briefly covered in a whitewashed way, but socialism and communism are repeatedly paraded around as evil. This is all the world history they'll get until high school, which will likely have a similar focus.
I've noticed that from when I was in school to now, a decade later, that they've really pushed a "communists were the worse evil all along" narrative. My students, who know very little about the world, know to hate and fear Russia, China, and North Korea, but have never heard of fascism and barely know about Nazis except as edgy jokes.
Damn that's bleak haha
Do you think it's a coincidence that most of the people who actually fought in WWII are now dead, unable to challenge their grandkids at the dinner table for coming out with nonsense takes? WWII isn't really in living memory anymore, except for people who were kids in it.
I have considered that's part of it, that the revisionism is related to it. Makes me wonder if we'll quit admitting the Vietnam War was a bad thing as soon as that exits living memory... kinda scary to know when I'm dead, the bad shit we did will be erased from history books to trick future generations.
A country that gladly accepted Nazis is clearly one where the rulers weren't particularly concerned about it - these are their kids and grandkids, still supporting Nazis, and still because of anticommunist thinking. This is the same country that continues to occupy land stolen from the indigenous and constantly fails to reckon with even acknowledging it, let alone stop steamrolling indigenous land, let alone implement restorative justice.
Russia bad is part of that anticommunist legacy. Look how little effort it took to dehumanize Russians from the Anglo perspective, look how they continue to rely on the same trope of the Asiatic hordes that will conquer everything in their path - if we let them.
"i mean he was a literal fucking nazi soldier, but the government of canada couldn't possibly know the history of someone they invite to their own parliament building"
One would expect the entire governing body of a country (minus apparently two people) to have a tiny bit more understanding of politics and history given that it is literally their job to know such things.
One would be very disappointed in the result if that was their expectation, but it would be a reasonable expectation.