cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/31010

It has become clear that some of you need this.

First wave feminism:

  • Focused on combating legally explicit oppression (mostly the right to vote).

  • Succeeded in all their goals.

  • Wish they had more goals lol.

Second wave feminism:

  • Rekindled struggle for women's equality. This part is cool, enjoy it, because it's all downhill from here.

  • New theoretical basis where women are the keepers of the ineffable moon spirit or some shit. (Okay fine, it's more nuanced than this, but not in a way worth giving a damn about.)

  • Only cares about white women.

  • Yes it's more nuanced than "ineffable moon spirit," but not in a way worth giving a damn about.

  • We needed third wave feminism for a reason. Anybody who still identifies with second wave feminism either really likes ineffable moon spirits or is willing to put up with them so they can be a TERF.

Third wave feminism:

  • Gendered oppression is just one of a number of different, sometimes overlapping, kinds of oppression in our society (also race, sexual orientation, gender expression, ability, etc). The loosely overlapping collection of kinds of oppression is called the kyriarchy.

  • The ranking of people within the kyriarchy is intentionally loose. Who has less rights between a white trans woman and a black man with Asperger's? The answer will be determined on the fly, in whatever way is most convenient for people in power, in that moment, for that case.

  • People facing overlapping kinds of oppression face different oppression than just the sum of the parts. The oppression that a black trans woman faces is different than the sum of the oppression a black person, trans person, and woman face. The best way to understand oppression is to look the complete intersection separately. This is called intersectionality.

  • The best way to understand an intersection is to ask people who live in it. This does not mean leaving them to their own devices sans support, it means fucking ask.

  • We will not win liberation for women until we win it for black women, trans women, disabled women, lesbians, and every other intersection with women. We will not win liberation for black people until we win it for black women, black trans people, disabled black people, gay black people, yadda yadda yadda and so forth for every other group.

Marxist feminism:

  • Is still third wave feminism, all aspects of that apply.

  • Let's add class as an axis of oppression within the kyriarchy.

  • Hot damn, that turned out to be a really useful addition.

  • Despite the name, not all Marxist Feminists understand class in the Marxist sense. A lot of the time they end up just meaning wealth rather than relation to the means of production. Wealth actually ends up being a useful thing to add to intersectionality too though, so I'd recommend adding both wealth and class (this time in the Marxist sense). *slaps roof of kyriarchy* this bad boy can fit so many axes of oppression in it

  • Class ends up being the most important axis of oppression. However, the other ones still matter. Marxist feminists is prone to over-simplifying things and pretending that only class matters. This is called class reductionism, and it makes you a bad feminist. It also makes you a bad organizer.

  • Revisiting intersectionality with class: The oppression that a black transwoman worker is different than just the sum of the oppression a black person, trans person, woman, and worker face. (Aside: holy shit are trans people illustrative here; the difference in experience between a wealthy trans person and a poor one is stark as fuck.)

  • We will not win liberation for the workers until we win it for black workers, trans workers, disabled workers, lesbian workers, female workers, and every other intersection with workers.

  • raven [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Thank you @Owl
    I had this saved since you posted it and refer people to it from time to time. It was my first time hearing the word "kyriarchy" and it helped me make sense of so much then and since. rat-salute-2

    If I may, I'd also like to add that first wave feminism involved quite a bit of property damage meow-knit before they were taken seriously.

  • ElHexo
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  • heartheartbreak [fae/faer]
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    1 year ago

    The revleft episode on proletarian feminism is really good on what these movements successes and failures were