Not trying to dox myself so I'm not gonna say where exactly I work but yeah it's at a grocery store. Wondering about quality of meat at places and stuff? I'm your guy.
Not trying to dox myself so I'm not gonna say where exactly I work but yeah it's at a grocery store. Wondering about quality of meat at places and stuff? I'm your guy.
yes it is
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I'll definitely support it when the DotP bans commercial meat. until then, anarchists and liberals have the same theory of change and I'm skeptical either can accomplish human liberation, much less animal liberation
EDIT: in a subsequent vlog he expands and refines what he's saying here in a less inflammatory way
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let's compare this to climate change: do you think more people need to be "aware" that burning fossil fuels is fucked, or do you think someone has to make them stop?
everyone knows fossil fuels are bad, even the people profiting off them
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how do you expect to be able to make people stop burning fossil fuels when the vast majority already know there's a problem? individual consumer choices and shaming? or seizing the means of production?
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I'd ask you the same question
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right, because cows are going to fight in the revolution
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as if "building solidarity" with a cow is meaningful in any actual sense. what have you built? what does that do besides make you feel morally superior? are you going to go out in a field and get its opinion on the mass line?
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go ahead and build a vanguard party out of infants and see how that works out for you
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whether you do or not you won't achieve anything without one
you're missing the entire point
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your point is we should recruit cows into the socialist party
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we were talking about seizing the means, and you brought up building solidarity with a cow to do that
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a revealing non-answer
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a dictatorship of the proletariat is a prerequisite to achieving real change, I will continue criticizing moral scolds whose theory of change is guilt-tripping and consumer choices instead of building a vanguard party
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the fundamental error you are making is thinking that ethical concerns will ever dominate material and cultural factors (which "ethics" are a subset of). the base (material conditions) and superstructure are the real forces reinforcing meat consumption.
the only advantage the working class has is numbers, yet your priority is to immediately subdivide them into "good" and "bad" categories— instead of using those numbers to seize the power that could then reduce those material and cultural factors that reinforce meat consumption. that's why I keep mentioning a dictatorship of the proletariat, the only way to actually achieve communism against the forces of capital reaction. less sorting the working class on moral grounds, more historical materialism.
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i was having a really shitty day yesterday and I think I was needlessly harsh. I hope against conviction you are right and I respect your commitment
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