• torknorggren@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    In my discipline we only pay if we want the article to be open access. Are there journals that charge $1000 and still put articles behind a paywall?

      • very_poggers_gay [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        Yup, I’ve got a paper that’s just about ready for submission, and if the journal accepts it for publication, we pay ~3k USD, so about $4k CAD.

        • s0ykaf [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          i wonder if that keeps researchers from developing economies from becoming impactful, because $3k is like 15 months of a minimum wage in brazilian reais, and more than entire month's wages for 99.9% of our professors

          edit: for the humanities this seems especially bad, it kind of makes it sure that western social thought remains dominant since only you guys can actually pay for it

          • very_poggers_gay [they/them]
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            1 year ago

            Oh absolutely. It's a huge issue, especially in humanities and social sciences, where the barrier of entry makes it so that almost all published research is conducted by certain populations on themselves. Some people call it "WEIRD" populations, meaning western, educated, industrialized, rich, and democratic (though that "weird" terminology is a bit stinky... I'm looking at the "E" and "D"). Interestingly, China has now overtaken the US in publishing the most highly cited research of any country, though I think their advances are mostly in natural sciences and engineering.

            There are also issues with how we qualify good quality or *academic * research. Again, this is especially the case in social sciences and humanities where the standards have been set by colonial researchers who had the means to run expensive studies on large samples. As a result, a lot of research methodologies and ways of knowing that don't align with the western colonial standards (e.g., qualitative research, narrative analysis) get discounted or written off entirely

  • ComradeWeebelo@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Publish or perish.

    Academic publishing is in a very weird place and is very, very political. Its true that authors have to pay to have their papers published in most journals or conferences after they've been accepted, but like all things academic, this is highly dependent on the field. Some universities will reimburse professors publishing costs, others need to pay out of pocket or with grant/public funding.

    While its true that there are open-access journals and conferences without such costs, I would wager that most well known researchers would avoid such avenues of publication due to prestige. The larger journals and conferences have review boards where the top scientists in the world sit on them. As a potential published author with such an outlet, its a great honor to even be considered. Most researchers don't want to take the risk of going with a less prestigious outlet if it will run the risk of smearing their image or damaging their ability to publish in better outlets in the future.

    Source: Was a Doctoral candidate that ran the whole ringer besides the dissertation.

    • spiffmeister@aussie.zone
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      1 year ago

      While its true that there are open-access journals and conferences without such costs

      To publish open access normally costs upwards of $3k USD as well. There's practically no point in the publishing chain where academics aren't getting screwed.

      Let's also not forget that you have to review other people's papers for the journal for free.

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    "I just proved unified field theory. Upvotes to the left!

    (Please, I need to keep my job)"

  • JamesConeZone [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    Yes, this is correct. Also, if you want to publish your dissertation, you'll need to do all editing and indexing yourself and wait like 3 years to publish it and receive about 1% of all sales

  • UlyssesT
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    19 days ago

    deleted by creator

  • MNByChoice@midwest.social
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    1 year ago

    The getting to keep your job bit is not quite right. Often, one also has to go find their own funding. Sort of based on the publications, but not necessarily.

    • fossilesque@mander.xyz
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      1 year ago

      Yes.

      https://plos.org/

      https://oa.works/

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_journal_publishing_reform?wprov=sfla1 (see Reform initiatives)

      Bonus background:

      https://pure.port.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/3696109/Military_Industrial_Complexities.pdf