• Squirrel@thelemmy.club
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    9 months ago

    Can we just get some real public transportation options in the USA? I've visited Washington D.C., Boston, and New York City recently, and I'm in love with the subway (etc). Where I live would still require a car, but afaik, none of the major cities around me have anything more than a lackluster bus system.

    • Sleazy_Albanese [comrade/them]
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      9 months ago

      it would have to be on rails. Sure, buses have fewer wheels per passenger but they are also heavier so go through their tyres much faster. Its probably still a net benefit but it doesnt eliminate the problem.

      • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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        9 months ago

        Its probably still a net benefit

        oh god imagine if the math works out that it isn't.

        trains, bikes, and sailing ships only.

        • 7bicycles [he/him]
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          9 months ago

          E-Bikes, maybe. There's argument to be made that given a typical western diet heavy on meat (and not changing that) it's better to just use electricity to power bicycles rather than meat filtered through humans

      • 7bicycles [he/him]
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        9 months ago

        Sure, buses have fewer wheels per passenger but they are also heavier so go through their tyres much faster.

        Per Passenger? A bus weighs like 40,000 pounds at most going by a quick google. The average car in the US weighs about 4,000lbs and the occupancy rate of cars is about 1,5, so 2,666lbs / passenger on a given trip. Every bus that has an average passenger rate of 15 and up beats that.

        • wowbagger@lemm.ee
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          9 months ago

          15 passengers on average seems way higher than most buses I've been on. Maybe during the very busiest times, but buses run all day. The many hours they spend with just four or five people aboard will really tank the average.

          Buses also have more tires than cars – usually at least 6, but sometimes 10 or more. I still doubt they're emitting more microplastics than cars per trip but the math isn't so simple.

          • 7bicycles [he/him]
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            9 months ago

            15 passengers on average seems way higher than most buses I've been on. Maybe during the very busiest times, but buses run all day. The many hours they spend with just four or five people aboard will really tank the average.

            I don't wanna say there isn't busses that might producre more microplastic but an average of 15 passengers per bus isn't like some insane goal to achieve, even in the current world, especially once you factor in that there's also times that there's way more than 15 people on one for a given trip