• highduc@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    If you're considering buying one you might want to take into account that they removed the headphone jack so they can sell their own wireless buds and headphones.

    • Stephen304@lemmy.ml
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      9 months ago

      I just keep a USB c dongle permanently attached to my wired headphones, I forget it's there. It adds like 1" to the overall cable length. I basically just converted all my wired headphones into USB c headphones.

  • TheFrirish@jlai.lu
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    9 months ago

    I might get flack for this but I despise them for their greenwashing. removing the headphone jack to sell their own Bluetooth headphones was mmmmmmh move at best.

    • Cethin@lemmy.zip
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      9 months ago

      I agree removing the headphone jack is annoying, but I'm sure the Bluetooth works with any device that supports the format, not just theirs. Apple tries to push Apple stuff and they know their stupid user base will buy the Apple version if they have it, but I doubt the same is true here. If they had a wired and wireless headphone, would you suspect them to be trying to force you to buy their headphones still with the 5mm jack?

  • lascapi@jlai.lu
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    9 months ago

    The main thing about Fairphone is not the phone but the supply chain.

    https://www.fairphone.com/en/impact/

    Nothing is perfect and a phone cannot make happy every one (is there a jack or not ...). But I'm happy that they try to make a good phone with all the hidden things in mind (from where come from the rough material, who is making the pieces and in which conditions ...). That's more important for me then the final product.

    • Liz@midwest.social
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      9 months ago

      Yeah when I need to get a new phone I'm 100% getting a FairPhone. My last phone lived for multiple years past the security updates. All my phones over the years have died to some trivial problem that wasn't worth fixing (e.g. bad charging port). But a fixable phone with eight years of security updates? Sign me the fuck up. The only reason my current phone isn't a FairPhone is because they didn't sell in the US when I needed a new one.

  • Liz@midwest.social
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    9 months ago

    These comments remind me about how when you try to do something great, the vast majority of the feedback will be from people who were never going to buy into your idea in the first place. The fact that they're on version 5 tells me there's demand for an ethically sourced, user-repairable phone with a long support life. Go start your own phone company if you don't like it.

  • redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 months ago

    Occasionally sluggish performance

    Wonder how it will be in 5 years. Personally think you'd be better of buying high end now and keeping it longer. Also I never had any component fail on my Samsung devices (except screen but that was self inflicted and the repair prices of samsung are more than fair). Same with iPhones, they are way more durable than fairphones.

    • BlueBockser@programming.dev
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      9 months ago

      I don't know of any high end Android phone manufacturer that promises security updates for >5 years. If you want to keep your phone that long or even longer, there are few choices unless you want to be vulnerable.

      Also, I have no idea what exactly "more durable" is supposed to mean, but I'm very much certain that Apple's and Samsung's batteries degrade the same and their screens also crack when dropped. A replacement part and the repair will be significantly cheaper with FairPhone, especially for people who don't want or dare to do it themselves because of anti-repair measures by the manufacturers.

      For reference, a replacement screen for FP5 costs 100€ and comes with straightforward instructions from the manufacturer. An Apple screen replacement will cost you 340€ and there are no official ways to get replacement parts or do the repair yourself. You have to pay half a FP5's worth just for an iPhone screen repair.

      Edit: Spelling correction

      • redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        9 months ago

        Samsung and Google promise 5 years of updates. Google is said to provide more with the pixel 8.

        Samsung charges 140 to 175 € for a repair on the s23. While almost twice as much as the fairphone, I still think its fair. I have to agree that what apple charges is way to much but that's how it is.

        As for durable I meant no random hardware fails. They are incredibly long lasting. My galaxy s4 and s6 still work to this day.

        • vonbaronhans@midwest.social
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          9 months ago

          I've used pixel phones for a long time, but I'll eat my hat if Google actually honors more than 5 years of updates for the pixel 8.

    • BlueBockser@programming.dev
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      9 months ago

      Have you ever heard the terms "security update", "firmware" and "OS"? Then you should know why a "roadmap" or rather a support plan is necessary. Many other manufacturers aren't even providing concrete plans and simply stop providing security updates after just a few years.

        • Monsieur_bleu [none/use name]
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          9 months ago

          literal liberalism, it's putting lipstick on the pig that is android, the entire system is built from the ground up to be a surveillance nightmare. Postmarket OS should work but you'll be better off getting a used Oneplus 6/6T and waiting for camera support (soon (tm) )

          • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
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            9 months ago

            the entire system is built from the ground up to be a surveillance nightmare

            Maybe but many have gone through the trouble of stripping the surveillance processes from it for your convenience.

            It is a great OS from a functional standpoint and realistically your only other option is iOS, which comes with a whole load of other baggage.

          • oscardejarjayes [comrade/them]
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            9 months ago

            Patches for the kernel that make the camera work exist, even though they haven't been accepted into the kernel you could just compile it yourself. Maybe I'm not the best resource though, I hard bricked my 6T two days ago. Ubuntu Touch is also an option, it has camera support because it uses an older more custom kernel.

  • SurpriZe@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    Why is it the price of an iPhone in Vietnam? Is it normal? I'd rather afford a PS5 with PSVR2 for the same price???

  • Never_Sm1le@lemdro.id
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    9 months ago

    They could have used a similar design like LG G3 instead of having to remove battery to access Sim/sd card