I'm not sure if I'm 4 or 5 to be honest and it's hard to explain why, because thoughts are so intangible. I don't have an internal monologue myself and it confuses me how people do. How can one think so slowly? I perceive my thought as a very thick, fast stream going on at all times. I'm fully aware of them, but they're not akin to speech or images like in the 1st. They very much are and in great quantity. I have ADHD, not sure if that may affect this. The sole time I have internal voice is sometimes when I type and when I was a child and was thinking on how I should've approached dialogue better in retrospective. I too have issue with recognizing faces, I think it may be linked to my photophobia making me stare at the ground, because, I shit you not, I can tell everyone I know from their legs or asses alone, and I don't stare at their legs nor asses, just look down, because it's hard to look at the light expanses above, as it causes me eye pain. I usually also can tell people from the sound of their steps alone. I think faces aren't as important to human recognition.
Yeah, I guess for me thoughts are something happening, like a transient experience. Very hard to nail down. I wouldn't say I'm fully aware of them, they're very mysterious. I can't get an adequate grasp on them. It's very funny, as according to people like Descartes one thing you can be absolutely certain of is your mind and the ideas it contains. While my experience is that the workings of my mind are the hardest thing to understand. I like to write a lot, because if I just sort of stream of consciousness write without trying to reflect on what I'm writing, that really just lets the thoughts flow into words. And then I can read back what I've written and reflect on it and really know what I think much better than if I try to capture thought internally.
My internal monologue isn't my thoughts, it's my awareness of the thoughts, feelings, desires, etc. that are occurring and my critique of and reflection on them. I guess because thought is so vague and indeterminate, I do often try to put it into words internally, so I can pin down and get a fix on what I think; and I have to put things into words internally first before I can speak them.
I can't tell people apart from legs or asses or any of that stuff either. I just have trouble recognizing people full stop. I frequently have conversations at school and stuff with people I know I've met before, who I can tell know who I am, but that I can't ID, until sometime into the convo something clues me in and I remember (though sometimes that doesn't happen). Luckily I have a pretty memorable name, so people are always like "Hey ______," and then I don't need to say their name I just say hey back.
I'd have to read more on internal monologue, because I always considered it == speech-like internal voice. Otherwise, I'd consider lack of it impossible, because by your definition I'd just consider it == thoughts, and then I find no point in it being separated as a concept to them.
I'm not sure if I'm 4 or 5 to be honest and it's hard to explain why, because thoughts are so intangible. I don't have an internal monologue myself and it confuses me how people do. How can one think so slowly? I perceive my thought as a very thick, fast stream going on at all times. I'm fully aware of them, but they're not akin to speech or images like in the 1st. They very much are and in great quantity. I have ADHD, not sure if that may affect this. The sole time I have internal voice is sometimes when I type and when I was a child and was thinking on how I should've approached dialogue better in retrospective. I too have issue with recognizing faces, I think it may be linked to my photophobia making me stare at the ground, because, I shit you not, I can tell everyone I know from their legs or asses alone, and I don't stare at their legs nor asses, just look down, because it's hard to look at the light expanses above, as it causes me eye pain. I usually also can tell people from the sound of their steps alone. I think faces aren't as important to human recognition.
Yeah, I guess for me thoughts are something happening, like a transient experience. Very hard to nail down. I wouldn't say I'm fully aware of them, they're very mysterious. I can't get an adequate grasp on them. It's very funny, as according to people like Descartes one thing you can be absolutely certain of is your mind and the ideas it contains. While my experience is that the workings of my mind are the hardest thing to understand. I like to write a lot, because if I just sort of stream of consciousness write without trying to reflect on what I'm writing, that really just lets the thoughts flow into words. And then I can read back what I've written and reflect on it and really know what I think much better than if I try to capture thought internally.
My internal monologue isn't my thoughts, it's my awareness of the thoughts, feelings, desires, etc. that are occurring and my critique of and reflection on them. I guess because thought is so vague and indeterminate, I do often try to put it into words internally, so I can pin down and get a fix on what I think; and I have to put things into words internally first before I can speak them.
I can't tell people apart from legs or asses or any of that stuff either. I just have trouble recognizing people full stop. I frequently have conversations at school and stuff with people I know I've met before, who I can tell know who I am, but that I can't ID, until sometime into the convo something clues me in and I remember (though sometimes that doesn't happen). Luckily I have a pretty memorable name, so people are always like "Hey ______," and then I don't need to say their name I just say hey back.
I'd have to read more on internal monologue, because I always considered it == speech-like internal voice. Otherwise, I'd consider lack of it impossible, because by your definition I'd just consider it == thoughts, and then I find no point in it being separated as a concept to them.