Interesting.

      • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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        1 year ago

        Well, we've certainly gone a long ways toward correcting my misconception that Marxists are a contentious and needlessly contrarian lot.

        • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
          hexagon
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          1 year ago

          You're not explaining yourself and are generalizing an entire political minority.

          • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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            1 year ago

            Explaining myself? You're talking right past me. I say Marx is an offshoot of Hegelianism and you say "Marx isn't Hegelianism", addressing an entirely different question. I say many branches of current science still make explicit use of Newton's laws and formalism, and your response is not "oh in what ways?" its "no they don't" without further explanation like you're doing a bad homage to the Monty Python argument clinic sketch.

            Looking at this from my side, it absolutely looks like you're trying to pick an argument that no one was trying to have for some reason, and will now contradict me on pretty much anything no matter how ridiculous that makes you sound. If that's not what you're trying to do, I'm all ears for a different explanation.

            • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
              hexagon
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              1 year ago

              "I say Marx is an offshoot of Hegelianism"

              It isn't.

              "addressing an entirely different question."

              Obviously, I wasn't.

              "it absolutely looks like you're trying to pick an argument that no one was trying to have for some reason,"

              All I did was reply.

              • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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                1 year ago

                It isn't

                You are doing a bad homage to the argument sketch.

                Fluid Dynamics is an offshoot of Classical Mechanics. Fluid Dynamics is not classical mechanics.

                When I say Marxism is an offshoot of Hegel, and you respond "Marxism is not Hegelianism", you, are in my mind, addressing a different question, you're addressing a question of subsets (Marxism is a type of Hegelianism, which is not what I am saying), while I'm talking about a question of relations (Marxism is related to Hegelianism in a particular way). You could of course inquire into what I mean by "related in a particular way", but you insisting that Marxism is not a type of Hegelianism has nothing to do with that in my view, so you are not addressing my original claim as I intended it.

                I could be wrong, and that Marxism is not related to Hegelianism in the particular way I had in mind, but you haven't said anything about that except not-uh.

                • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
                  hexagon
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                  1 year ago

                  You keep arguing with me even though I told you to stop pestering me.

                  I already said that calling Marxism a Hegelian off-shoot or whatever is reductive.

                  Good day.

                  • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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                    1 year ago

                    Yes, but you did not, as you say "explain yourself" for this. In what way is it reductive? Is that bad thing in this case?

                    I'm happy to disengage if you'd like to invoke the disengagement rule, but you don't get to recapitulate your position as correct and then invoke the rule in the same post.