• AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Americans call the Boston massacre and only 6 people died, just saying that on the level of supposedly horrific state violence that should never be forgotten, so you have any idea how many massacres of the same and larger scale the United States has perpetrated just in the last 30 years?

      • Rinox@feddit.it
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        1 year ago

        According to the Chinese Communist Party around 200-300 civilians died, and several thousands were injured. According to most other agencies, the numbers are around 10 times higher, with 1000 to 3000 dead. Either way, it's a very high number of dead.

        Or is this not a massacre? By the way, two wrongs don't make a right

        • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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          1 year ago

          You don’t give a fuck about the wrongdoings of any country but the ones you were told are “enemies”

          Cops in the US murder thousands of people every year, bet you don’t even spare a thought for it, is my point

          State violence only bad when it’s not my state

          • Maoo [none/use name]
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            1 year ago

            *State violence is only bad when my ruling class tells me it is

          • Rinox@feddit.it
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            1 year ago

            I do care about wrongdoings of any country. The issues with police violence, racial discrimination and gun violence in the US are not a secret. You are not the first one talking about that. Everyone in the west talks about that, it's now the first thing most people think of when talking about the US in the west.

            That being said, I don't understand why, when anyone even tries to say "China bad" the answer is always "but America is also bad". Why does that make it right?

            • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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              1 year ago

              because we're in a contrived thread that twists over backwards to shit on china, not a thread about the legitimate issues with china. Its frustrating to see, even when I agree that china is pretty bad in a lot of ways, seeing that drumbeat of "enemy state bad" as an army of mindless brainwashed western redditors marches by throwing out half truths and outright lies (its almost never real criticisms, like with north korea its just miles long lists of shit westerners were taught to think like its illegal to not have the kim haircut) it just makes my head pop

              • Rinox@feddit.it
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                1 year ago

                Do that every morning. But then I remember that my government is not bombing hospitals or operating concentration camps...

                Now, try to criticize China, unless you think it's perfect, in which case, oh boy...

                • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]
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                  1 year ago

                  Do that every morning. But then I remember that my government is not bombing hospitals or operating concentration camps...

                  if you're german, imma have to make you take a seat ya toddler. You were the propaganda boy for concentration camps and genocide.

                  • Rinox@feddit.it
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                    1 year ago

                    Even if I were, which I'm not, you are talking about events that happened 80 years ago and never again since. The USSR did it for far longer (Gulags) and China is still operating concentration camps.

                      • Rinox@feddit.it
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                        1 year ago

                        and they stand with israel they seem to be the same Nazis they used to be

                        Yup, Hitler was famous for his support to Israel. Fucking hell why am I even replying

                        • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]
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                          1 year ago

                          Israelis are Nazis, and deserve to die like them

                          Yup, Hitler was famous for his support to Israel

                          ... sir you really need to read up on your history oh my fucking god

        • kristina [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          All the organizers, though, are living cushy rich lives in Taiwan and the USA now

          Wonder whose head those deaths are on? It's not like you can legally go around impaling soldiers to buses and stealing apcs and tanks in any country

    • raven [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/there-was-no-tiananmen-square-massacre/

      • Rinox@feddit.it
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        1 year ago

        Yes, I was worried about the square. Thank God most of the massacre happened on the streets around Tienanmen

        • raven [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          The point is that the western sequence of events is incorrect on the face of it.

          https://tiananmensquare.carrd.co/

        • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          "I was lied to about an obvious, easily verifiable fact, but I'm sure the people who lied to me are otherwise being honest"

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      I mean yeah I wish representation were better. Too many regional representatives are boomers stuck in the past. I was in Shenzhen in 2019 though and met a bunch of cool queer folks though.

    • kristina [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      What? I was just watching a show the other day with a trans hostess on Chinese national TV. Her name is Jin Xing and she's very well known and her show draws 100 million viewers regularly

    • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      It was a massacre.

      I suppose those police officers just set themselves on fire then?