Windows: What is my purpose?
User: You are a bootloader to install Linux.
Where I'm from, Triple E is something spread by mosquitoes.. something about it just attracts blood suckers I guess
More like:
1 - embrace it in the cloud 2 - profit madly 3 - extend 4 - profit more
It makes me chuckle that people think Microsoft actually wants to extinguish Linux. I mean, the Windows division sees it as a competitor to be vanquished I guess. Over at Azure though, it is the golden goose.
How many years will you people keep parroting this? Show me the extinguish part already...
Wouldn't it happen by now considering how much MSFT/corporate influence Linux already has?
I'm reminded of Google's financial support for Firefox, so as to dissuade the idea that they are a monopoly
In exchange, FF uses Google search by default. So they're also getting direct value from the deal.
You could not live with your own OS. Where did that bring you?
Back to meWindows -at this point- is free to use at least for personal reasons and there are zero consequences if you don't activate your copy. They used to give you deadline in the XP/Vista era to activate your copy but not anymore. All you get is a watermark in the corner that either bothers you or not. They are as well very sloppy with closing activation methods, they could just close a new gate every patch Tuesday but they don't do it. It is far far more important to them that everyone is using windows and there is a high chance based on last week's news that there will be a subscription "premium" version like in any app that removes ads and enables AI features.
All you get is a watermark in the corner
Well, that is a consequence. Just not a very big one. You also cannot change the background in the settings, though that is also a very small consequence. Yeah, they are only small and you can likely live with them, but small and tolerable are not zero.
there will be a subscription “premium” version like in any app that removes ads and enables AI features.
This makes me glad I no longer use it. An OS should not have ads baked into its core and there should not be a subscription for it.
I love when people on the Internet say "X did Y quietly" to make it more suspenseful. This doesn't look quiet to me...
What does "quietly" even mean? Didn't take out ads in Times Square?
Microsoft must make 40% of their revenue off of Azure at this point. I would not be surprised if more than 50% of that is on Linux. Windows is probably down to 10% ( around the same as gaming ).
https://www.kamilfranek.com/microsoft-revenue-breakdown/
Sure there are people in the Windows division who want to kill Linux and some dev dev folks will still prefer Windows. At this point though, a huge chunk of Microsoft could not care less about Windows and may actually prefer Linux. Linux is certainly a better place for K8S and OCI stuff. All the GPT and Cognitive Services stuff is likely more Linux than not.
Do people not know that Microsoft has their own Linux distro? I mean an installation guide is not exactly their biggest move in Linux?
I would not be surprised if more than 50% of that is on Linux.
Depending how you count "on Linux" the over/under is closer to 90%.
Great! Then now you're ready to install Microsoft Edge on your fresh new linux installation: https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/edge/pool/main/m/microsoft-edge-stable/ 🤡
It comes with bing search pre configured for you so you don't have to look for the settings, we also hid them so you don't accidentally switch to duckduckgo because we believe Linux users shall experience the full potential of our services even out abroad on another OS
For all two people who genuinely use edge on Linux, it's still a more private experience than Windows. Regardless, more power to them
The thing is, I don't think a guide is really needed to install Linux. Most of it is pretty straight-forward. (The only tricky bit that comes to mind is making the USB that you've put your distro on bootable. That probably isn't obvious; and it might not be obvious how to get your computer to boot from a USB anyway if you've never done it before.)
Anyway, the way I see it, Microsoft's guide is more about how you can use Linux while still having Windows. If someone is searching for "how do I install Linux?" Microsoft would obviously prefer the answer to involve something that preserves Windows. First preference: WSL, second preference: Virtual Machine, third preference: dual-boot. And after that, you're on your own.
third preference: dual-boot.
Does that mean they're gonna stop eating grub? Becouse I won't dual boot let alone allow windows near my hardware till it stops eating grub
I prefer having Windows safely tucked away on a virtual machine where it can't hurt anything.
I wouldn't count on it... From Microsoft's point of view, dual booting works as long as you install Windows first - which probably suits them just fine.
I personally haven't seen windows do that in many many years (last time I saw it happen was with windows XP, though I haven't ran dual-boot system with every windows since then, just some).
In my dual-Linux setup though, one keeps trying to get over the other in every minor update.
Last time it happened to me was early in my linux journey (around 2 years ago) with win 10, honestly if I wasn't already extremely pissed off at windows at the time I probably would have given up on linux when it happened, as it was though I instead gave up on Windows and haven't looked back
You have to install Windows first, then your Linux distro.
Doing that has solved all my problems with Windows being a douche
So I'd have to remove my already setup to how I like it OS, install windows, remove all the garbage it comes with, reinstall Linux, and then re set it up to how I like...
Just to "more easily" do VR? Yeah no thanks, seems like far more effort than windows is worth to me
windows hasn't overwritten my uefi settings on major update in 3ish years
I agree; but please take my comment in the context of Microsoft's guide - which doesn't tell users how to do any of things that you've mentioned. My point is that the underlying purpose of the guide is not so much about how to install linux, but how you might try linux while still keeping Windows.
The thing is, I don’t think a guide is really needed to install Linux. Most of it is pretty straight-forward. (The only tricky bit that comes to mind is making the USB that you’ve put your distro on bootable. That probably isn’t obvious; and it might not be obvious how to get your computer to boot from a USB anyway if you’ve never done it before.)
It's been awhile since I installed a Linux distro...Have some of them improved guidance related to allocating disk space on install? I remember that was one of the parts that I wasn't entirely confident I'd handled properly the last few times I did so. Something something swap, something /, and the like.
I did a Mint install a few weeks ago, and I'd say that if you want to preserve some existing OS (i.e. dual boot), then it isn't super easy. You have to tell it what new partitions you want - and therefore you have to know something about what partitions you should have. The good news is that you don't actually need any swap or home partition. You can just put it all on one partition - but I don't think it's obvious what to do.
On the other hand, if you aren't trying to preserve something you already have, you can tell the installer to just go with all the defaults, and then you don't have to know anything about it.
Note: Microsoft's guide doesn't mention any of that detail. It basically just says to follow the instructions of the installer.
You're so right! I feel like I always need to try two programs and I am never doing it often enough to actually remember which works.
I mean, why not do that, from their perspective. Linux has been around for a long time and Windows still maintains market share. They don't feel threatened at this point, so might as well have the explanation of how to install Linux be a subtle ad for Windows.
Link to post: https://mastodon.social/@Linux_Is_Best/111202901396633888 Link to Microsoft guide : https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/linux/install
if you can't beat them join'm!
lolFOSS ftw✌️
Even 10 years ago, this would've been unthinkable. Never would I have ever thought Microsoft would oublish a guide on instanjing Linux.
Pretty insane seeing the market dominant OS telling people how to install another OS lol
Can't wait for this page to become a Rickroll for Linux community giving technical advice.
