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  • I'd really like to do some personal projects, both to learn new stuff and scratch my digital itches.

    The bitch is that ⅓ of the day goes to sleeping, ⅓ to work (where i do what i like but not how i like it because management) and the other ⅓ is for groceries, workout, friends & family, chores etc... and after a mentally-exhausting day at work i can't really motivate myself to work on a project... i'd rather just be dumb in front of online video frivolities for a while and hit the hay 'cos tomorrow's another (work) day.

    Burnout's a dirty word for be 'cos the only people i've seen using it are managers who don't deserve the air they breathe.



  • Big spoiler there.

    I don't think systemd is the epitome of technological evolution, but that's another rant. The fact that it's not just another init system is at the center of it, though.

    Because it's not, any distro that chooses to use it is, in fact, adopting a whole ecosystem. Some apps that predate systemd are even hard-depending on it for... reasons. Can you use GNOME without it? Why most distros adopted it as default instead of an alternative i can only speculate. At least Slackware hasn't adopted it so far and Gentoo took, to me, the sanest approach: you can choose your init system, including systemd if you so prefer.

    Devuan is the response to Debian choosing systemd. It's its raison d'être, to be Debian without systemd.

    I was unaware of Kicksecure, who their founder is and when they decided to adopt systemd, so i may be at fault here.

    With this i agree:

    It’s troublesome if distros and/or DEs rely so heavily on systemd to do their bidding. So much so, that some combinations of distro + DE don’t allow any differentiation in init or make it very cumbersome and unwieldy at best.

    With this, i don't:

    systemd has become so good that even opponents can’t deny its merits and continue to make use of it

    And this is where i think you've contradicted yourself. IMO, the only reason opponents use it is not because it's so great but because it's so entrenched in whichever distro they're using.


  • Fine, i'll bite, i'm bored.

    Interestingly, while Madaidan discourages the use of systemd in that guide, it’s still heavily relied on in Kicksecure; one of the distros he works on.

    While you didn't explicitly state it, it's a distro that's based on Debian, so, has to be based on systemd.

    I think this is a perfect illustration of how systemd has become so good that even opponents can’t deny its merits and continue to make use of it for the time being out of necessity.

    No, not at all. You said it yourself:

    It’s troublesome if distros and/or DEs rely so heavily on systemd to do their bidding. So much so, that some combinations of distro + DE don’t allow any differentiation in init or make it very cumbersome and unwieldy at best.

    So trying to use Kicksecure without systemd would be very cumbersome and unwieldy at best. Perhaps Madaidan should've used Devuan as a starting point instead.



  • So much so, that some combinations of distro + DE don’t allow any differentiation in init or make it very cumbersome and unwieldy at best.

    it’s still heavily relied on in Kicksecure; one of the distros he works on. [..] this is a perfect illustration of how systemd has become so good

    Considering Kicksecure is based on Debian, aren't you contradicting yourself?







  • 0x0@programming.devtoLinux@lemmy.mlThe future of Linux
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    8 months ago

    The RedHat and Canonical oligarchs are well underway in achieving their windows-like linux desktop through systemd and flatpaks and what not, so we may see a small but highly deployed number of immutable distros becoming the forced de-facto standard.

    Microsoft continues their new approach at EEEing linux through WSL Azure, and everyone's happy about it.

    Torvalds will eventually die, as will Stallman, so all that'll be left are the communities, which unfortunately don't have that much strength/voice.