• Master@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    If killing a bunch of women and children is freedom fighting then this world is fucked.

    • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Listen, the children are victims (women get IDF training same as men though so lol) but they are victims of Israel. Dont put children on the front line of a settler colonial project.

      The Hatians killed their masters. Was that wrong?

            • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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              1 year ago

              Listen, I'm not happy about the death of kids either, I'm just saying that revolutions are never, ever clean because oppressive violence breeds revolutionary violence and these people are angry and hopeless and you cant abandon the cause of the oppressed because of excesses. The oppressor has killed way more kids and will continue to if they're not stopped. Like its really easy to talk from your high horse of privilege and judge revolutionary movements and tut tut but at the end of the day it comes down to what you actually care about. Because way more kids are going to be killed if the genocide of Palestinians isn't stopped. And that includes Israeli kids because the Palestinians are going to fight back and they aren't always going to be perfect victims about it. Israel can stop this at any time.

              • Lols [they/them]@lemm.ee
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                1 year ago

                im not suggesting freedom for palestine should be abandoned, or that palestinians should take the high road of just fuckin dying

                im suggesting that killing kids is a terroristic act

                its also increasingly doubtful that that happened in the first place though, so eh

                • FortifiedAttack [any]
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                  1 year ago

                  A) necessary for stopping the butchering of palestinians,

                  B) had any chance of stopping the butchering of palestinians in general, as opposed to giving israel the perfect excuse to start carpet bombing with no restraint

                  This implies that you have proof that the killing of kids was intentional (IF it even happened, there's still no concrete evidence for that yet either).

                  Do you have proof?

                  Because saying "killing kids is bad" will not convince me that Hamas is actually doing this.

        • SoyViking [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          What kind of parents choose to bring their children to live on stolen land in a war zone?

            • zkrzsz [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Number of Palestinian children killed: 365 children. And I bet the number from Israel is way lower.

              • Lols [they/them]@lemm.ee
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                1 year ago

                spread over the past 2 decades the actual number is closer to 2000

                and that is reprehensible because killing kids is bad

                and you dont have to bet, israel can keep count of their victims a lot better, we have a relatively accurate idea of how many there are

                and that is reprehensible because killing kids is bad

            • SoyViking [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Killing children is bad indeed which is why the occupation must end. All violence in Palestine comes from there. If you don't want the violence of decolonisation, don't commit the atrocities of colonisation.

          • Jules [none/use name]
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            1 year ago

            The children didn’t exactly have a choice when their parents chose to be settlers.

            • Kuori [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              which is why those children are victims of their parents and their government