like just assume for the instant that its possible to for the machine to identify all the atoms at some location and make them leap instantly to several feet in front you, no matter how far away they initially were, in the exact same configuration as they were, or at least at the speed of light (to make sure this totally plausible scenario doesn't run into any relativistic weirdness). What would happen if you like were knee deep in mud? would it transport full on gallons of mud as well? Just a small covering of mud over your pants and shoes? Would ALL the mud be left and you'd have super clean pants (Fuck doing laundry, just transport somewhere to clean your clothes)? Further, how does it know what's "you" and not? By DNA seem the obvious choice, but even if you found a way to get your skin and hair and toenails and etc to transport along with you, you'd probably be dead before you even realized it because your cell's mitochondria would probably be left behind. Once that's figured out, you'd be stuck starving to death without your gut flora. Although that would be a neat way to cure infection, transport someone and keep all the virons/bacteria behind. If anyone is still reading this inane post, is there a term for this sort of problem? Where in a wide forest view its beyond obvious easy to identify what is part of a person and what isn't, but once you start trying to actually draw the boundary about which specific trees it is, it becomes impossibly hard? That's really why I made this post, I'm trying to figure out a term to use to refer to that sort of thing and google is NOT helping.

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    They'll train the teleporters with a machine learning algorithm. It'll work 99% of the time, but the other 1% will be people who get turned into stop signs.

    spoiler

    in Star Trek they don't actually teleport your molecules, they disintegrate you and re-materialize an exact copy of you somewhere else. Every time somebody was beamed anywhere they were dying horribly and being replaced by a clone that didn't remember it happening.

      • ciaplant667 [he/him,fae/faer]
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        4 years ago

        There’s a short story by Harlan Ellison where black folks run the world cuz after scientists developed transporter tech, they kept trying to transport white folks and they came out all zombified. Turns out only POC can use transporter tech cuz they got SOUL.

          • ciaplant667 [he/him,fae/faer]
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            4 years ago

            It was in this collaborative book called “Mind Fields”. This Polish artist Jack Yerka painted pictures, and Ellison vibed on the pictures and wrote stories about them! That specific painting/story is called “Amok Harvest”.

    • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      This isn't true cos they have an episode, Daedalus, in ENT where a character says it isn't. He very specifically says he spent years debunking the idea that it did kill the subject. Consciousness is also maintained as we see in the episode Realm of Fear in TNG.

      Also transporters work on the same level as the holodeck and replicators. They're matter-energy conversion. The subject is converted into an energy stream which is beamed to the target location. It's then rematerialised at that location.

      I get that you're probably doing a bit but I don't care and wanted to flex Star Trek knowledge.

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        That's neat, I've only seen about a season and a half of TNG (and none of the other series) so I was just going off of a half-remembered forum thread I saw once.

      • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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        4 years ago

        In Star Trek? There are various safety protocols in place for that sort of event. They're an incredibly safe way to travel.

        However, assassination isn't impossible during the beaming process as seen in the DS9 episode The Darkness and the Light where a device is planted on someone that scrambles their signal in the pattern buffer and effectively kills them by rematerialised them incorrectly. They're also detectable devices but there are ways to get around it as always.

        • ssjmarx [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          In one of the TOS movies a scientist beaming onboard the Enterprise is horribly killed in a transporter accident, so it doesn't have to be an assassination.