Lemmy.world has somehow decided to become to extreme defenders of "copyright" and decided they will now delete posts that contain archive links in an absurd move that not even corporate websites like Reddit do. Archive links provide a service to provide access to an article long after it is deleted or changed.
They made this post and locked it immediately so no one can comment on how ridiculous it is and they're deleting threads about the decision...
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/6711646
The LW admins have requested that communities remove any posts that include the entire article or archive links to articles.
A short summary is allowed, but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. This includes links to sites that rehost copyrighted articles for paywall sites.
If your post is removed for a rule 1 violation you can edit the post and let the moderators know the copyrighted material has been removed.
Thanks All!
Lemmy.world has a storied history of being a shit instance. Go ahead & leave ASAP
I get the impression that one of the main goals of Lemmy World admins is simply to assert control over its users. Whether they realize this or not and are just doing habitually. There was a post awhile back about the feature of users being able to do instance blocking themselves and they were pretty against the idea of an instance that federates with everything in order for users to do their own moderation. As this would obviously take away their ability to control users.
In my opinion they are just bullies who have convinced themselves they are in the right.
This is pretty much what happened to Reddit, no?
I never really used Reddit so I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me that power over users is one of the primarily motivators of admins and power mods.
Or Facebook or whatever else
Lemmy is going to have worse mod issues than reddit, and this is an example of how and why.
The difference is that this is federated and you can ignore any instance you like. With reddit, your only choice is to make a copycat sub and hope people join you.
Which sounds good, until you start to notice that most instances have functionally dead communities, and the majority of traffic comes happens on a small number of instances.
Lemmy doesnt have the population to have mass community movement, so mods abusing power in any of the larger instances means you shut up and put up with it or abandon the instance with 1/3 of the site content on it.
Power modding is going to be a much much larger issue here, while the community is still small. Maybe if there were enough users, federation might resist mod abuse. But as it is now (and will be for a while at least,) you basically are making a copycat instance or community and hoping people join you.
Hmm. Interesting points.
It doesnt help that mod tools here are very anti-user. Not even in a hostile way, the tools just arent finished or even made yet, so its very hard for users to play by the rules or know when theyre punished.
Like how you need to scroll through the modlog to see if your post/comment was deleted, and if youre lucky they might include why. Or how unclear and obtuse it is to check the instance global rules which change when you visit other communities, who themselves have a different list of rules.
These probably all have solutions, but thats gonna take time to build. And moderation is probably gonna be kinda wild west-esque until they are running.
A lot of why I’m reserving judgment is because everything is so very young still. It’ll take a lot of time and effort to develop it into something more mature.
Thats the same reason Im here. Learn the way this works while its developing, so if it evolves into a well developed community Ill already know my way around.
I'm also open to the idea that there's really no good social media, even when federated. We may still have to deal with hateful and insecure mods, for instance.
lmao. Defederate immediately, just on principal. Let Lemmy.world know that once they stop being capitalist stoogies they can reapply for federation.
Critical support for lemmy.world admins alienating their users by managing to be more fascist than Reddit admins.
The link you posted is a post by a mod announcing that they will enforce the policy given to them by the LW admins.
From the modlog I can tell that (presumably) you posted a text post to !politics@lemmy.world about the policy that was then removed.
If you're posting to !politics@lemmy.world, such posts would obviously be removed because that's A. not on topic (that'd be a topic for !lemmyworld@lemmy.world. ) and B. not a link to an article. The latter is also the reason given for the removal.
Stirring up drama over absolutely nothing usually ends up hurting someone. Could you not?
They’ve defederated from lemmygrad.ml: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/2347489
Removed by mod
go back to reddit dork
Great news.
Yeah, for lemmygrad
Truly is, the amount of zionist bootlicking and call for extermination of Palestinians we see on lemmy sharply dropped overnight when we stopped seeing new .world posts.
Fuck them. I’ll continue to post the full article if someone asks for a paywall bypass. Information should be free.
Someone's attempting to capitalize on federation...
This is a bad move that's anti-community and user-hostile. Hopefully it also fucks over the monopoly they've been trying to get over communities. People need to stop defaulting to putting their communities under
.worldjurisdiction and use other, smaller, and more relevant instances instead.
