• neo [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Xorg is pretty bad, in the sense that it has so many tack-on features that it's unmaintainable. That's a problem from a developer's perspective (and there aren't people who want to develop it anymore, literally almost everybody has given up/moved on).

      From a user's perspective, X might have some convenient features (X forwarding. I love it!), but the two big wins for Wayland are enhanced security, where applications can't just read your input unless you allow them tom and lag/tear free rendering.

      A lot of people complain about Wayland issues, and they're justified complaints when you take one thing that currently works and substitute in its place something which might not work yet, but Wayland's time is near. It's design might be

      Another set of complaints is how some Wayland things work on one implementation, but not another. This is partly a complaint about how the protocol is defined, and another about how different implementations might introduce non-standard extensions. Personally, I don't care about this so long as things get standardized, but of course this is one of the weaknesses of FOSS - different people, different opinions, disjointed work and effort. At least with Windows and macOS they get one implementation (for better or worse) and that's that.

      If you want to compare things, I think Wayland can be considered equivalent to DWM on Windows. And with PipeWire (the Linux analog to macOS's CoreAudio) en route, I think Linux desktops are going to get really strong in the next year or two. Hopefully I'm not spreading bogus info in this comment.

    • SirLotsaLocks [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago
      I don't know too much about either so this may sound really dumb BUT

      xorg is basically dead, even it's developers agree that it's time to move on. it's necessary to move to something that can updated and be maintained and be secure. It's approach to display managing is really different so it really is a significant change, but it also makes it much lighter. It's been in development for about a decade now and it's finally almost there. With full gnome support, to the point where wayland is the default on some major distros (I want to say fedora is one, and ubuntu is going wayland this year) NVIDIA has also made some changes recently to support it more (though I still think it's rough from what I've heard) and now kde ready for wayland, I really think this year will be the tipping point. At least I hope.

      • AnalGettysburg [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I believe manjaro uses wayland as default (though it's been a minute since I last had a linux pc, so don't take this as gospel).

    • companero [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      This could be placebo, but whenever I use Wayland, it feels like there is a bit less input latency. Everything seems slightly snappier, which is very nice.