On The Jacobin Show, Amber Frost offers a critique of some of the intellectual arguments for mutual aid, debunks the myth that the Black Panther Party's free...
This is great. It seems to me this pretty much satisfies all arguments for/against in this thread. I think we're all for mutual aid as an outreach tactic, provided it is not JUST mutual aid.
As much as I like the video and appreciate its discussion, it feels like Amber straw-mans mutual aid projects as non-political and dismissing them as political tools, without deeply discussing their actual potential. They just kinda go "ah yeah, if you're doing BPP style mutual aid that's good but normally mutual aid is bad" which I do actually agree with, but it's too much time spent dunking on people and not enough time spent analyzing efforts, for example by PSL.
Yeah I fully agree with you? I don't think I said anything else. This "podcast" is just a discussion with some propaganda sprinkled in. I don't think Bhaskar has ever claimed to do anything like a "coherent political project" with Jacobin, it's just leftist press.
This is great. It seems to me this pretty much satisfies all arguments for/against in this thread. I think we're all for mutual aid as an outreach tactic, provided it is not JUST mutual aid.
As much as I like the video and appreciate its discussion, it feels like Amber straw-mans mutual aid projects as non-political and dismissing them as political tools, without deeply discussing their actual potential. They just kinda go "ah yeah, if you're doing BPP style mutual aid that's good but normally mutual aid is bad" which I do actually agree with, but it's too much time spent dunking on people and not enough time spent analyzing efforts, for example by PSL.
Amber.
Social media & podcasts are not a substitute for a coherent political project.
This video makes good points, but it was intentionally made controversial because that increases engagement on social media.
Yeah I fully agree with you? I don't think I said anything else. This "podcast" is just a discussion with some propaganda sprinkled in. I don't think Bhaskar has ever claimed to do anything like a "coherent political project" with Jacobin, it's just leftist press.
Yeah, I wasn't disagreeing with you.
Oh word lol