Like they agree with me in terms of being "team Palestine", and understands my analogies of the initial Hamas attack being like if slaves in the 1800s had tried to stage an uprising etc but still "you can't tell me terrorism is good because it's never good", even when I explain to them how non-violent protest actually working (like when schools taught us about MLK JR/civil rights etc) is propaganda...fun times.

  • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    "you can't tell me terrorism is good because it's never good"

    Liberals are so obsessed with something being "good" or "bad" (meaning things that make them feel good or bad) that they miss the point. They can literally acknowledge how slaves killing their masters is effectively self-inflicted by the masters, and the only reason they don't always immediately turn around and say "but killing is bad" is because it was long ago and they're fully aware of how racist they would sound if they did.

    "Terrorism is never good" is childish, because "terrorism" is before anything else an insult pointed at non-white people who defend their rights and tactics that many consider "terrorism" (guerilla tactics, surprise attacks, etc.) can be a means to a good end - in this case halting the settlement of Palestinian land.

    Adult settlers who voluntarily live in illegal Israeli settlements have participated in a genocide of the Palestinian people, the same way German settlers during WW2 were participants in the genocide of the people of Eastern European nations, and those who took the property of Jews were direct participants in the Shoah. They're not unaware of what happened to give them that land. Often they personally committed the violence. They were comfortable with this because they believed that the IDF would protect them. It's absolutely ridiculous to see people all around the world, who have stood by and done nothing about this for generations as the Palestinians were repeatedly murdered for attempting peaceful resistance, suddenly start crying "terrorism" when Hamas (a group which would likely not exist and hold power without having been funded by Israel) has inflicted violence on the settlers in turn.

    • Grindlebob41 [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Oh my partner is really bad, they will pause a movie/show etc we are watching to go “ok so I’m confused, who’s bad and who’s good?” I honestly blame the fact that their taste in entertainment is self-admitted “trash”, like I’ve made the joke/response of “so you know a lot of more clever/prestige media often has a lot of shades of grey, where no one is clear cut good or bad”