I've seen a lot of posts on this site that are leaning into anti semetic tropes while criticizing Israel. I want to point it out so that folks can recognize it.
First, because I have to say it:
Israel is a colonial outpost of the United States. It was created by Britain and inherited by the US. The US gives Israel ~3,000,000,000 USD in aid every year. As a colony, it should be the goal of every socialist to destroy it, just as we seek the destruction of the US, Northern Ireland, South Korea, Canada, the Phillipine state, etc.
But! Israel is also a safe haven for Jews. This is seperable from the colonial nature of the state. Israel could have been created in Germany or Siberia or frankly Florida for that matter (in fact, annexing Florida to create a new state of Israel is what I mean when i refer to "the one state solution"). In many ways, the US with its civil rights act serves the same purpose, and in fact, most Jews live in the US.
Many of us had ancestors in Germany or Poland during the holocaust who did not stick around after the war. They saw Israel as their best shot at safety in the wake of the holocaust. Many Israelis are liberals, hoping to vote out Likud, stop supporting settlements, and negotiate palestinian statehood. These people are advocating half measures, sure, but they are not our enemies.
So I wanted to point out some anti-semetic tropes I've seen on this website and call them out so you can recognize them.
Conflating Jews in Israel with Zionists.
This can be done through omission. If you aren't clear whether you're talking about jews or a specific institution (for example, the I"D"F or the settlements or Likud), many people will read your statement as being about Jews. Be careful with the word "they"
erasing the ambivalent position of jews within colonialism / conflating jewishness with whiteness
The zionist entity is not a Jewish colonial project, but an Anglo colonial project. It was created by the British and now is funded by the US Americans. Jews are an oppressed minority whose oppression is leveraged against other oppressed peoples. Similarly to how the US uses Kurds to Balkanize Iraq or The Hmong to wage counterinsurgency in Laos, it's uses Jews to destabilize the Levant.
Outside of the US, jews are largely understood as a racial group and oppressed on that basis. Especially in the Arab world where the Islamic hyper nationalism has gained ground in response to colonialism and been funded further by colonialists to their own ends (google "the safari club" or "Israel funds Hamas")
Blood Libel
This one is the assertion that Jews are uniquely bloodthirsty / murder non Jewish children. The classic example of this myth that people are familiar with is Runplestiltskin.
It is true that the IDF under the direction of Likud and the US state is murdering many Gazans, the majority of whom are children. but! be careful to specify. When people talk about "jews" or "israelis" generally as perpetuating the murder of children, they are engaging in the blood libel trope. Again, be careful with the word "they" and specify which entities you're talking about.
calling for ethnic cleansing
Okay, wtf ya'll. It's not jews as an ethnicity that are oppressing Palestinians, it is US imperial power. Jews have always lived in Palestine and the occupation only began in the 40s as part of a British initiative.
Jews will always be part of a palestinian state, and frankly need protections as ethnic and religious minorities. We do not seek the expulsion of Jews from Palestine, but their integration into it as citizens.
Jews are safe in the US not because its a colonial state but because of civil rights protections and generational wealth. If we can create civil rights protections in Palestine and a social safety net (ideally communism but I'll settle for social democracy), then jews will be safe in Palestine.
Jewish control of America / protocols of the elders of zion
America controls Israel and not vice versa. APEC is not a cabal brainwashing otherwise Nobel Christian politicians. US politicians support Israel because they're colonial politicians and Israel is our colony. APEC exists because lobbying is how power is exercised in the US, but if we had patronage instead, APEC' functions would be carried our by a governor or an ambassador or whatever.
conclusion
Recognize the role of the US empire in Palestinian oppression. Recognize that jews are in an ambivalent racial category and are an oppressed people. Be specific when criticizing Israeli colonialism. Name who you're criticizing, is it the settlements? The IDF? Likud? The US military Industrial Complex? Stop calling for ethnic cleansing of jews if you've been doing that. Don't equate jewishness with whiteness / the Nazis. White people are white people, the US is the Nazis.
Great, I've seen people call for the removal of all Israelis, and the mods subsequent deleted that post, so we've seen different things and I'm responding to what I, and the thread OP have seen.
Right, and as you point out, they "hold all the power". When you insist that any discussion of the peaceful settlement be dismissed, you accept that stronger military is going to continue to impose it's will on the weaker. And in this case we both agree that Israeli is the stronger force and has the goal of ethnic cleansing. To me this premise and logic unavoidable arrives at the conclusion that the complete ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people is unavoidable, a conclusion I find abhorrent, and so that premise I reject.
Israeli needs to stop bombing the Palestinians, which requires the Israeli Jewish population to not believe (however spuriously and unjustifiably) their survival depends on bombing Palestinians, which absolutely requires peaceful coexistence to be an envisionable and articulable end scenario for this conflict.
Except for the historical examples I keep citing. Honestly, I can't think of a single historical example of a settler-colonial government being successfully, violently removed by the indigenous population (Vietnam being colonial as opposed to settler-colonial project). If you have one though, I'd love to hear it.
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Exactly, this is a right-wing zionist talking point. That's my whole point. Theodor Herzl is absolutely full of shit. He should be called out as being full of shit, and modern day Israelis should call him out as being full of shit in the same way we leftists in America call out Thomas Jefferson as being full of shit. His Zionist project was and is immoral and unconscionable and it, as well as it's justifications and talking points should be stamped out and renounced full throatily by current Israelis.
The end of slavery in the anglosphere did absolutely hinge on the existence and pressure of British and American abolitionists. Slaves didn't violently overthrow their captors and end the institution. I don't know whether claiming otherwise is historical revisionism or illiteracy. What do you think prompted South Carolina's succession and the Civil War that resulted in the 13th Amendment? It wasn't the Nat Turner rebellion.
Clearly not all of them, but historically outside pressure and internal disputes between abolitionist and pro-genocide settler factions has absolutely played a role in every prior successful settler-colonial struggle, and indeed almost every anti-oppression struggle. To wit, it wasn't allied forces who hanged Mussolini, it was his anti-oppression compatriots.
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I swear to God nobody actually knows what words mean anymore. You're the one insisting I toe the Zionist line and refusal to parrot their talking points doesn't make me a apologist for them.
Yeah, and when the Southern planter elites used the Haitain rebellion as proof that whites and blacks could not live side beside peacefully as equals (which they did), they were also full of shit, like the Zionists.