• SpacePirate@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    What is the size of the “median” home in each area? Single family, or townhome, or condo?

    Given that this appears to be a median average, this graphic does not account for the extremely wide variance depending on the cases above. A two bedroom condo and a five bedroom single family home could easily have a $2000/mo variance in the mortgage cost.

    The other item that would perhaps be useful would be to call out what the down payment requirement is for each of these areas; ie, you can only achieve a $3000/mo mortgage if you’ve also put down $140,000, which is unachievable for over 90% of the country.

    • SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      From the Bay Area, $1.5M will get you a two bed one bath or three bed 1.5 bath home built in 1925 or so. You can buy in a lower end neighborhood for a little less or a higher end one for a bit more, but the standard is going to be a craftsman home from 1906 with a driveway if you’re lucky.

      I think the graphic also used a 20% down payment and a slightly over 6% mortgage in the calculation.

      I just want to retire and move someplace cheap, like NYC or London.

      • Adi2121@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        Where in the Bay? Here in the Tri-Valley, you can get a 3-4 bed, 2 bath, for 1.5-.8 mil.

        • SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml
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          1 year ago

          Even in downtown San Jose you’re talking about seven figures for an ancient craftsman with outdated electric and plumbing. Willow Glen, Los Gatos, Cupertino, you’re pushing $2M.

          If you’re willing to commute from way up in the east bay, you can do a bit better, you’re right, but if you’re commuting to a South Bay company you’re paying for it in travel time and stress.

          And tbh, I was stationed for a bit near Dublin. I can’t swear to what the prices are like now, but man, now that I’m out of that line of work I’d choose to live in East SJ or the peninsula instead.

          But those are super reasonable prices, I will happily admit, and if you work in SF the commute might be worth it. We just need much more mass transit.

    • Redscare867@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      There is no way that this graphic isn’t including the entire metro area. The city I currently live in is on the list and so is the city that I am planning to relocate to. Prices shown do not accurately reflect the prices of houses/condos that I would consider “in the city”.

    • principalkohoutek [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Just making sure you know the prices listed aren't home prices, it's the buyer's necessary minimum annual salary to purchase the house. Unless you're Australian, in which case America is actually cheap by comparison

      • Kaputnik [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Also cheap compared to Canada, especially around the great lakes region. Across the lake in Canada is one of the most unaffordable places to live in the country, along with the southwest coast

  • SokathHisEyesOpen@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    Good luck buying a house in Seattle on a $170,000 salary. It's going to be a beat-down, tiny thing, with no yard, in a questionable area.

  • Treczoks@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Now that insurances against natural disasters start costing a fortune in places like Florida, and you probably have to have such an insurance to get a mortgage there, it, the costs for housing down there will probably skyrocket soon.

  • radix@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    This is beautiful! Does anyone know the software used to create this visualization?

  • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    The sadistic choice of the US:

    Barely scrape by in "luxury cities" where non-millionaires are an afterthought. But at least you'll have an easier time meeting fellow "undesirables".

    Have slightly more money that will mostly just go to paying for a car to traverse car-dependent hell...but you have to have vapid neo-nazis for neighbors.

  • GreatWhiteNope [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    This is just not realistic.

    Using the median home price is severely underestimating the cost of a decent home in an okay neighborhood.

    With these salaries, you can afford a house that needs severe repairs or in either an unsafe or really inconvenient area.

    I bought a house in one of these cities in 2017 with slightly more than what they say is the required salary. It was 195k with 4.5%. The school district reassessed the house from the sale, my taxes skyrocketed, and my mortgage increased $600 a month. I ended up selling the house after 3 years to move in my parents with 25k in credit card debt.

    Today, that house would cost at least 300k and interest rates are around 8%. I’ve almost tripled my salary since then and my budget is probably max 330k.

  • OnionQuest@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    They should include the interest rate they are using to calculate the mortgage. Based on what's provided they are assuming around a 6% mortgage which is no longer available. Tack an extra $1,000 monthly payment onto that million dollar home and an extra $40,000 to your income to make it affordable. (Assuming debt/income ratio and income taxes)

    Did I miss anything?

  • ThanksObama5223 [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    At current interest rates, 5% down, and an 800 credit score, you're monthly piti is still like 2,700. Assuming you make that 92k/yr, and are traded at 22%, you're monthly take home is 5900. That's 45 percent of your monthly income. "Affordability" is for dinner heavy lifting here