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This isn’t true, the words we use to describe things are just language games, sure, but words like “pregnancy” or “consciousness” are referring to actual real world phenomena. You can’t say because a word referring to something is an abstraction that the thing itself is abstract.
I don’t believe in a hard problem of consciousness, this isn’t a “problem” in my materialist world view. Consciousness is just one of many aspects of certain living things, it may be more complicated than other aspects but that doesn’t mean it “couldn’t have evolved” or “isn’t material” or whatever.
What is the actual real world material phenomenon of "pregnancy"? It's just a clump of matter slowly growing inside another clump of matter, material reality doesn't need your concept of pregnancy to do its work. Why does it need a name? The actual concept of pregnancy lives entirely in your mind, not in the material world. It's a symbol for you to make sense of the world, and it's a part of your mind. Now again, what is the mind?
What are living things? It's all just clumps of matter, why do clumps of matter develop consciousness? Those are pretty big questions for your worldview, you don't really get to just brush them off like that, you need to account for the existence of your mind somehow.
Yes, so it is a real world, material phenomenon, which is what I said.
I did, my mind exists as a result of physical/chemical processes within my body and brain. That’s it. This poses absolutely no problem for me, it’s a problem for you because you insist on treating consciousness as unique, other or above matter. That’s a you problem, I don’t have that problem.
Which brings us back to this comment again: https://hexbear.net/post/91483/comment/1013036
I was literally you a year or two ago when I started researching this stuff, I get that you think you've got it figured out but please give it a chance. You're making logical errors in your thinking without realizing it.
No, I’m not.
Yes, you are. The subjective feeling in of itself cannot be equal to configurations of matter, it's literally like saying the cup on your desk is literally the abstract concept of the number "2". It makes no sense at all, it's a complete non sequitur.
You literally twisted your mind in a knot to force yourself not to think about this properly.
No, you’re honestly just rambling now and projecting. Be a non-materialist if you want, but you’ve presented nothing resembling a coherent argument in favor of it, just circular reasoning and mumbo jumbo.
I could say the same to you too, your viewpoint makes absolutely 0 sense. Like I get saying consciousness is a stuff that's caused by matter interacting but what you're proposing is just patently absurd.
It's fascinating, it's like you're completely unable to metacognize your own awareness, this is beyond me, I give up.
Please don’t message me anymore, I don’t have any interest in arguing against pseudoscientific nonsense anymore.
Little do you know how pseudoscientific you're being, but whatever, it was a good talk I guess, bye.