• aradgus@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    funny, Rudolf Rocker would agree, but not in the way Xi does. An authoritarian state suppresses culture and all socialist ideas. With all due respect, I really like most of your memes, I just think that supporting state capitalism won't liberate us

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Once people in the west show how to build something better than what China is doing then I'm all ears. So far, what we see in China is demonstrably better than what we see in the west pretty in every way that matters. China isn't perfect, but we need to compare its system to the real world alternatives available to us. Nobody says the west needs to copy what China is doing, but at there's clearly much to learn.

      It's also not the place for westerners to tell Chinese people how to run their society. Seems to me that vast majority of people in China support their government and the way their political system works. If people in the west want to do something different, then nobody is stopping them.

      • aradgus@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        I totally understand the point, I can't and don't want to tell the Chinese how to run their society. I also agree that the West mutch can learn China. I don't think "but we need to compare its system to the real world alternatives available to us." is a good argument. Its used by those in power to deny new ideas and stay on the status quo. Capitalists use the same argument to excuse their dysfunctional system.

        Just think, if you want socialism, you should look at different approaches. Perhaps we can learn not only things from China, but also anarcho-syndicalism, troscism or other ideas.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
          hexagon
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          1 year ago

          I have nothing against trying different stuff. My point is simply that it makes sense to devote the most energy towards proven approaches for improving the current situation. If we have avenues for tangible improvement then those should be utilized even if they produce imperfect solutions. We can always look at how to improve on them once we get there.

    • rjs001@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      State capitalism? Tell me you know nothing about China without telling me you know nothing about China