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  • cosecantphi [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I think I see what you're getting at now. I wasn't sure how something non quantitative could have a causal effect on the natural world, but then you questioned why shooting fat ropes feels great.

    I started with the assumption that every system of particles has its own qualia. There is then a qualia for each possible configuration of matter in the universe.

    If humans evolved without the causal efficacy of qualia, then why is the sensation of cumming a good one? Why would that exact configuration of matter in the exact moment you happen to bust be the one to produce a qualia you would describe as a pleasant sensation?

    This would be a rather large coincidence that evolution, completely randomly, stumbled upon a configuration of matter with qualia that matches the result the selection pressures tended towards.

    Is this why you say there must be causal efficacy, and why you say qualia seem to be included in the process of natural selection?

    • space_comrade [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      This would be a rather large coincidence that evolution, completely randomly, stumbled upon a configuration of matter with qualia that matches the result the selection pressures tended towards.

      Is this why you say there must be causal efficacy, and why you say qualia seem to be included in the process of natural selection?

      Exactly this yeah. It seems like the most parsimonious explanation to me, all other explanations require quite a bit of weird assumptions and logical leaps that you don't usually do when doing science.

      Now I'm not sure I buy into all the conjectures of Kastrup's idealism (life after death, all of existence being solely mental states etc..) but it's more and more clear to me that consciousness cannot be tied to matter alone but is a thing with a life of its own. Personally some sort of neutral monism makes the most sense to me, but I'm still reading up on all of this stuff.

      • cosecantphi [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Alright great! Thanks for the help in understanding that concept.

        It seems that, after all, consciousness is not stored in the balls.

        Kastrup's work looks pretty interesting, and I think I'll be reading more into it.