Bristol Protests live
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In this video I think it's demonstrated incredibly powerfully what importance needs to be placed upon anti-horse tools.

The horses do the bulk of the work in creating space that allows the police line to tighten the noose here. Without them they never would have controlled these crowds with people on multiple sides of them. They could not have maintained control.

There must be simply and effective methods to spook these horses without causing a danger to them. Something that could be deployed that would make the riders tell their superiors "we can't deploy because the horses would be spooked by x".

Anyway. What are other people's thoughts here? Obviously this protest was unprepared for a fight (although several police have been hospitalised). What could small groups of 1-5 have done in the wider engagement to make things go differently?

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      SMDH it’s like you all forgot everything your Persian forbears taught you.

      Most of my knowledge of history comes from 300. So I assume the strategy is to be bisexual and let the supermutants do the work.

      • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Let's be honest, we'd all surrender willingly to Xerxes. Dude knew how to party.

    • ElGosso [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Loving the idea of an black bloc camel cavalry brigade

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Smell as a weapon sounds like it has potential.

      • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Yes, put seriously; you could take the piss/musk/pheromones from animals that scare horses (or even other horses like another user mentioned) to spook them. Getting a horse to spook is more effective (as far as nullifying force-multiplication) than killing/maiming it imo.

              • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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                4 years ago

                o7

                Hopefully this quarter we'll get a favorable review and steal some of the funding from the Pig Poop Balls Dissemination Department.

                What the hell do they need that big of a budget for anyway?

          • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Just read that (it's only 10 pages, for the curious). Interesting and useful stuff!

        • Owl [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Does bobcat urine work? It's commercially available as a rodent repellant, and very stinky.

          • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            Woah, since when did I become the animal piss expert around here!?!

            :screm3:

            To be honest I really don't know with certainty.

            I assume the bobcat piss is 50% effective (vs. rodents) because it's a natural predator's scent but also 50% effective because it's very stinky and rodents have sensitive noses. I dunno how reliant horses are on their sense of smell, or what kind of "relationship" horses have with bobcats in the wild. If I was a horse, I think I'd be pretty indifferent about them tbh.

            Edit: You knowwwww, there's a way you could find out...

            • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Tiger or other large predator urine might be more effective. First, you gotta get the tiger urine though...and I'm pretty sure Joe Exotic's place, who I assume did a brisk business in tiger urine if anywhere did, is fully closed now I believe.

              Although a quick Google says bear urine is commercially available, and I blame all of you for my next month of ad results.